Yu-chun from three-piece band JYJ smiles during the group’s first concert “JYJ Worldwide Concert in Seoul” at the Olympic Main Stadium, Sports Complex, Saturday evening. Despite the chilly weather, some 30,000 fans cheered on for the band, but JYJ failed to fully satisfy high expectations due to poor preparations. Insets: JYJ performs during their first concert. /Yonhap, Courtesy of Prain
Members of boy band JYJ may have made headlines with their departure from one of Korea’s most popular bands, TVXQ, and with their efforts in broadening their fan base, but it seems they will need to work on the basics: professionalism and consideration to the audience.
The three-member group — consisting of Yu-chun, Jae-joong and Jun-su— held its first concert “JYJ Worldwide Concert in Seoul” in freezing weather at the Olympic Main Stadium, Sports Complex, Saturday night.
It snowed and rained a bit in the morning, and although the weather seemed to get better during the day, it got chilly and very windy again as evening descended.
By the time the concert was scheduled to start, which was 7 p.m., the bare and open stadium was literally ice cold.
To make matters worse, the concert was delayed for an hour, which made even the most devoted fans a bit frustrated.
Around 7:20, the three members suddenly appeared on the stage, thanking the fans for coming and also expressing their condolences to the victims of Yeonpyeong Island, where a North Korean artillery attack took place on Nov. 23.
“We are sorry for the delay,” was all the members said regarding the delay and they left the stage, leaving the fans waiting in the cold for another 40 minutes, some shouting “come out!” and “why aren’t you coming out!”
When the show finally started, which was around 8:10 p.m., it seemed the fans forgot all about the icy temperatures and the delay, as they shouted the members’ names and waved bright red glow sticks in the air in perfect harmony.
The members performed songs from their first album “The Beginning.” The first track “Empty” was impressive, along with the other numbers, as the group managed to put on a great show despite the cold.
Their hands and noses were bright red from the wind, but this didn’t stop them from dancing and running around the stage, waving and shouting out to the screaming crowd. Each member had an individual stage as well, with Jae-joong’s sexy track “Still In Love,” Yu-chun’s ballad medley and Jun-su’s reinterpretation of “I Can Soar” with an orchestra playing in the backdrop.
The group also presented some new tracks as well, such as “Nine,” “Fallen Leaves” and “Mission Make it.”
When the intro for “Be My Girl Remix” came out of the speakers, the crowd shouted even more loudly and followed the groups’ dance moves perfectly. Yu-chun recently posted the video for the number’s choreography on his twitter, and the fans managed to learn the moves and display a memorable flash-mob experience for the three members.
After singing some 18 songs, the members left the stage with the fans continuously shouting out their names. But JYJ, despite the fans who had waited for some freezing 10 minutes after their departure, didn’t return to give an encore.
Overall, the show was fun and entertaining. JYJ’s agency explained that the concert was produced by creative director Jeri Slaughter, who worked with Mariah Carey and Christina Aguilera, but there was nothing extraordinary.
Laser shows, fireworks and unique installations have been around in the pop idol concert scene for quite some time; there’s even been pianos held up in the air and members flying over their fans on wires.
The two big screens on each side of the main stage was impressive, but it was not enough for the fans who sat in the back as it mostly offered full shots instead of close ups. Due to the frigid weather, the three singers also had a challenging time singing their songs, which mostly included their signature powerful dance choreography.
The concert’s stage effects would have been a bit better if they went on with their original plan in covering the open ceiling with a specially-made dome, but due to the grueling weather, this plan was scrapped.
Scrapping the dome was not only a regrettable incident for JYJ, but also for the fans as well. The tickets for the concert ranged from 110,000 won to 198,000 won, and concert organizers explained that the cost was a bit high due to the special effects, including the dome. Tickets for a concert held by SM Entertainment at the same venue cost 11,000 won to 88,000 won, a lot less expensive than JYJ’s.
In the end, fans had to pay full price for something they didn’t get to see, had to wait over an hour in the freezing cold without getting a clear explanation, plus were unable to enjoy an encore with the band.
It would have been hard for any experienced band or artist to perform in such adverse conditions, but it would have been more professional to prepare for the unexpected, especially if it was being held in late November, at an open and exposed stadium and charging a lot of money for seats.
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Wow I didn’t realize the huge price gap of SM concert and JYJ concert O.o;;
This article is maybe not so good to hear but if you review everything based on the facts provided, then probably it’s not right to overly defend the concert’s organizer.
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I really don’t like this article. It is so totally SME biased.
By: Kissari on November 29, 2010
at 3:10 pm
Exactly. The writer’s not very objective.
By: sansukini on November 29, 2010
at 3:14 pm
no he/she’s not. The comparison to SME basically proved to me that this was their doing.
This reporter is stupid. They say that they scrapped the dome, as if to say that they couldn’t be bothered. This was not the case. The should have emphasized that the dome WAS in fact constructed but due to natural disaster it was damaged. I hate this. If you are going to report, be honest and stop trying to make them look as though they lied to the fans. I can completely understand why Junsu cried when he saw the dome came down…he must have known that people would attack them in this fashion.
All the other foolishness that was mentioned was so trivial…like a kid trying to pick a fight. Ugh! this reporter needs to go back to school, or better yet become a novelist seeing as though she/he likes to make up stories..
By: ShanaXangai on November 30, 2010
at 5:08 am
Agreed.
By: J on November 29, 2010
at 3:15 pm
stupid journalist!!!!!!!!!!….who can predict the weather!!!!!!!
By: kiko on November 29, 2010
at 3:11 pm
boo…..i don’t like this article!
By: sarangjae on November 29, 2010
at 3:12 pm
The crappy thing is…this is actually quite tame compared to the sports newspapers articles on the concert. I read one that said the concert was no different from the showcase, except with worse sound and lighting. The Korea Times is a mainstream news source so it bitches relatively less.
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 3:21 pm
It’s not like they can predict the hail and control the weather. Who would have known the weather wouldn’t cooperate. It’s harder for them, you can see how cold it is but they still performed well.
By: sansukini on November 29, 2010
at 3:13 pm
i hope jyj didn’t read this article.
By: thedolphin on November 29, 2010
at 3:14 pm
I hope they won’t let stupid articles like these affect them
By: sansukini on November 29, 2010
at 3:18 pm
i want them to read it actually. I want them to know that how some media see them as what so that they know who to believe, who not to believe.
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:28 pm
Yes… it could be hurtful
but IMO, all the ‘negative’ or ‘positive’ opinions about them could be a positive feedback for them.
I see this news as an opinion from a ‘non fan’ so there’s no slightly emotional feeling involved.
They stated the fact… yet I could see that they didn’t blame the boys.
They said that the boys gave impressive performance, did the best in spite of bad weather, and so…
They just said the management fail…
It’s winter… so there must be a lot consideration about making a concert in a open stadium.
They had plan about the covered stadium… but they should have thought about any possibilities that could occur during the time of the month in the winter… that there might be hail and strong wind and freezing condition, etc.
Not all the audience are avid fans of the boys…
Many could understand and will forgive and forget… but some might not.
The boys’ management clearly offered the spectacular show for them… and it’s canceled, so yeah some must be disappointed because some might buy the ticket because of this reason.
I wonder, beside the statement from the members, are there official statement from the PR to describe the situation and maybe apologize for the inconvenience coz of the nature ‘hazard’. Though it’s uncontrollable (force majeure) factors? At least by doing this they can show they really care about the feeling of the ticket buyers…
It’s sad… yeah.
So many difficulties, problems, hardships must be faced by the boys…
I just hope that they will stay strong…
that they will never thought of givin up.
What Jae said on his twitter really touched my heart…
They really show how much they care about the fans…
We just hope that in the future they (the management and the team) will be doing much better
By: grannyestee on November 29, 2010
at 8:19 pm
Bullshit.. totally bullshit.. the journalist.. you are full of shit.. the stinkiest shit is you. did sm pay you to talk shit about them? Go to you own shitland.. bullshit!!!!
i didnt hear a single bad comment from the attendees.. I have lotsa korean friends who attend this showcase.. and some of them just a casual listeners.. BUT they said the concert were AWESOME.. none were complaint about the tix price !!!
the cover collapsed because of weather… not the boys fault.. Do you want to blame the God…?
The one who need to work on the professionalism is not them.. BUT YOU Bullshit journalist!!!
Since you were a media.. YOU HAVE MEDIA PASS to attend the concert… SO WHY whining about the tix price when YOU CAN PUT YOUR STINK ASS for FREE?
Sorry.. too emo.. because I really hate this journalist!
No integrity at aLL!!!
By: frozen flower on November 29, 2010
at 3:16 pm
i mean the concert.. not showcase.. typo.. too emo.. *im having my pms while reading this article
By: frozen flower on November 29, 2010
at 3:23 pm
The article is overly harsh in its criticisms for factors the group could not control, but it does make one valid point…JYJ’s management is FAIL. They should have had a plan B long before the morning of. It’s probably because they didn’t that the audience was made to wait one hour.
I’ve always wondered why they signed with CJes…I’ve been living in Korea ten years now and I’ve NEVER heard of this company. At first, I thought they were with CJ and I was all excited because CJ Ent. is chaebol, the one thing SM fears since it’s the one thing SM can’t be. But I suppose the boys have their reasons…At least their PR team is doing amazing (so far).
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 3:17 pm
If U say that I think there are no one die in Disater e.g: Flood, storm….in Philip, China, VietNam beacause it’s forecasted from hydrometeorology. Every country’s also have Plan A, B, C, D.. to protect people from bad weather, but in the end lot of people died. JYJ’s Management did their best for the boys. Don,t blame them.
Why don’t you wonder other company dare to sign w them?, If do that SM ‘ll knock out that company, Only Cjes dare to do that, they also suffer dirty trick from SM,we should them !right!
Sorry, My english is bad!
By: monkey on November 29, 2010
at 4:34 pm
I think I get the gist of what you’re saying, and so your english can’t be that bad ^^.
Look, I too was prepared as anyone out there to give CJes a chance because what you say is true. There is practically no entertainment company with the exception of those run by chaebol–CJ Ent, whose CEO is Samsung founder’s granddaughter, and Mnet and DSP Ent, both of which are linked to Samsung through shareholder deals–that would dare go against SM. I truly admire CJes for that. But I have yet to see a well-managed project from them…in other words, CJes’ balls seem to be bigger than their competence. I think the last straw for me was the US showcases disaster. I don’t think I need to go into how disappointing the management of that was. Prain, their PR company, on the other hand have produced truly commendable accomplishments despite facing the same challenges.
For me, the jury is still well out on their management.
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 4:47 pm
Thank yoou for your comment ^_^
By: chaomootoo on November 29, 2010
at 7:17 pm
But i think this article would become quite slap to wake up their management company. I just want their management to become more professional. yes, bad weather can’t be avoided but i agree that may be JYJ could give encore or something for the fans.
And they are so many complains from showcase until concert. This article also very unprofessional to compare them with SM (which is now a very sensitive issue) but yes this article also have right fact that can’t be ignored. I just hope C-jess aware of it. I don’t wanna my boys have bad image because of this mess. And JYJ as sweet as u boys can be please choose ur management company well.
By: ayyjjoong on November 29, 2010
at 5:43 pm
Yeah… I forgot to mention that the worst thing from the journalist is that they have to compare this concert and SM Concert. They should just stated ‘fact’ and did no comparison!!!
About encore…
it’s freezing, they might not want to give the encore since they’ve already let the audience to wait longer before the show start. They might re-appeared and said thanks once again and explained that they couldn’t do the encore because of that reason and said thanks once again…
ah, dunno… coz I wasn’t there…
By: grannyestee on November 29, 2010
at 8:27 pm
yah after i think, the it might be hard for boys and dancer to perform. their aoutfits really thin.. i can’t imagine they can really perform like that. thumb up for my boys. And i heard from fan account they are given free hand warmers ^^ but the article didn’t even said it…
I just wish the boys good luck.
By: ayyjjoong on November 29, 2010
at 9:25 pm
I know what you mean.
But in this case, I believe JYJ went to through enough hardships and obstacles to make their first own concert alive.
This should be recognized by any “good” journalist.
Those articles don’t need to praised everything but at least be objective and recognized the hard work those three guys and their team had put on for this show to comes true.
Now JYJ are standing on their own feets, they have the freedom to create their songs and concerts as they want it to be, but also they have to care for everything as well. Of course they have a team, who is standing them by and help them to realize those dreams, but we all know CJes is not a huge company like those SME, JYP, Avex etc.
CJEs don’t have a horde of staff for every section, that’s why some few people have to care for lots of tasks and functions, therefor errors and misunderstandings arised as we have seen.
Instead of giving them hard critisism and look down at them because of some errors, we should try to understand their situation abit and give them the credits they deserved!
DON’T YOU SEE? 3 guys and a small team have put on an international album, numorous showcases throughout Asia and in the US, now starting their first big concert. All their hard works they did to make all these possible throughout this year, people easily forget it all.
It’s easy to criticise what you see, but to understand all those immense works behind, can you?
Before putting critics on your mouth, please everyone should take some time to ask yourself, do you criticise them to put them down, or do you criticise to help them improved. Words can hurt alot. I believe the boys had enough of that.
By: Indi on November 30, 2010
at 7:42 am
i have to agree with jimmie re: Cjes. it’s like they shout big but their delivery is just FAIL costing JYJ money. hopefully, it won’t cost them their image. and of all places, this concert HAD to be perfect as it’s in Korea! it should have been flawless and they should have forseen any and all issues with holding a concert outside in Nov in KOREA. ug.
By: &hearts on November 30, 2010
at 2:19 am
I agree with you
In spite of how i like the boys the article did state true facts apart from the comparison to SM town which was valid in my opinion. CJES management has been very unproffesional and lacking at times and it costing the boys alot. People my disagree but CJES may end up destroying the boys with the way they are running things . As a management they should have the foresight to see ahead and have back up plans for any foreseeable mishaps that may happen but they failed in that arena which is very crucial- they can’t plan ahead.
Also i understand the comparison to SM town, jyj used to be in SM and the fans, media etc were used to high level management and planning but jyj’s concerts have been lacking in that arena. People would except in spite of leaving SM they should maintain that high level of management, planning and concerts they had when they were still in SM. They are placed on a high pedestal because of tvxq and quite frankly they should maintain the same professionalism, quality that they had or they will loose fans, damage their image etc
So in spite of all the anger fans have towards the writer am quite happy that he told the truth and that CJES and JYJ should take the criticism and improve upon because the same mistakes have been happening over and over again and its going to cost them. So i hope its a wake call to CJES and JYJ that they need to drastically improve.
By: oo on November 30, 2010
at 2:34 am
but still, the way they wrote the article make it sounds like the concert was really really disappointing
haisssh~
By: bunny_and_bear on November 29, 2010
at 3:17 pm
Yes. Every other article I have read has been full of praise for the show. This article makes it sound like the fans were complaining about it.
By: Kissari on November 29, 2010
at 3:22 pm
blame someone for the bad weather?
man~~~god surely doesn’t bless you after this..,
By: lovesoulfighter on November 29, 2010
at 3:18 pm
In any case, the music from the concert was AWESOME and that’s all that matters to me ^^
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 3:18 pm
agree Jimmie.
and i think a lot of people do enjoy the concert a lot.
By: pocky_the_super_snack on November 29, 2010
at 3:49 pm
This is the only thing I want to hear: concert was awsome
who cares the other things, right? so you were at the concert?
By: nericia on November 29, 2010
at 4:50 pm
are u come to the concert?
By: ayyjjoong on November 29, 2010
at 5:47 pm
No. I had engagements both nights and I just wasn’t interested enough in them at the time. It was actually through the fancams of this concert that I became a fan. After hearing Fallen Leaves, my bias immediately became Junsu ^^. I’ll make sure to book their next concert.
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 6:15 pm
of so many artistes they have to compare with SME. =.= it’s not like they wanted the hailstorm to happen and break the roof…i guess there are bound to be people who criticise them just like how there are people who praised them.
nevertheless, JYJ fighting~~!!!!
By: starnitez on November 29, 2010
at 3:18 pm
JYJ ..inconsiderate and unprofessional to their fans???????????????oh my goodness…anyway..i guess..the fans on both days..could feel the loves and the efforts JYJ put on…imagine in zero degree of temperature..freezing cold…with hardly little covered…they were all out to sing and dance for their fans….this article saddened me …something are seriously very wrong with korean press and entertainment line!!!!!!!!
By: didi on November 29, 2010
at 3:20 pm
who care ???
Even if have only JYJ on the stage and don’t have any special effects I believe that all fans still want to go to cheer up our boys ^O^
stupid article like this will add more feeling of fans want to protect JYJ and give more love to them ^.^
By: lalalalove79 on November 29, 2010
at 3:21 pm
“even if have only JYJ on the stage and don’t have any special effects I believe that all fans still want to go to cheer up our boys ^O^”
TOTALLY AGREE +++++++
The most important thing of the concert was JYJ….special effects are a bonus BTW…i think the concert was awesome (even i wasnt there xD) and seems that cassis were happy with the show, thats the only thing i care about ^^
By: junchan on November 29, 2010
at 11:52 pm
The article is kinda harsh n critical…
By: vatmic on November 29, 2010
at 3:22 pm
i skip everything =_= its a bad article eh?
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:23 pm
at the very least…cx the journalist mention bout their soulful life performance? and their composed piece? geez come on~~~
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:26 pm
better not read it… It can bleed your heart…. especially when you have read the boys’ sorry tweets…
By: frozen flower on November 29, 2010
at 3:28 pm
i read it ;A; i hate SME-blinded-Korean media. I need hugs
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:30 pm
*hugs ><
By: frozen flower on November 29, 2010
at 3:31 pm
thank you bb Crying forever~~~Damn! Korean media biased b***ches!
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:35 pm
he blamed the boys for hailstorm? I’ll blame him when my dog die – -;;
K-medias…UGH!
By: Ammy on November 29, 2010
at 3:24 pm
hahahaha..this!! <3
By: tealonyx on November 29, 2010
at 5:15 pm
The author has totally left out the detail that the HAIL destroyed the roof & they had to remove to roof for the audience’s safety.
The author only said: “The concert’s stage effects would have been a bit better if they went on with their original plan in covering the open ceiling with a specially-made dome, but due to the grueling weather, this plan was scrapped”, which made it sound like the concert organizer didn’t carry on the plan AT ALL, while in fact the ceiling was already installed days before & ready to go, it’s just that an unexpected natural disaster, that human have no control of, damaged it.
And I rise my eyebrows at this sentence as well: “they will need to work on the basics: professionalism and consideration to the audience”
Not I need PRAIN to step up & say something about this!
By: Lee on November 29, 2010
at 3:27 pm
*Now
typo T_T
By: Lee on November 29, 2010
at 3:27 pm
fans care most about the boys, they’re the main and probably the only reason. everything else is secondary.
the boys still put up a spectacular performance didn’t they?
What an article. -.-
By: applexe on November 29, 2010
at 3:28 pm
Funny how the writer didn’t even consider the amount of sponsors they get. I’m pretty sure SME concert had more sponsors than The Beginning Concert.
Seriously…the writer’s lack of information and research is stupid. Questioning their professionalism? 0.o I don’t even…
By: DBSJRocks on November 29, 2010
at 3:29 pm
there will always be good and bad criticisms…
especially when the boys do not have backing of an influential entertainment company like SME. and SME had LOADS of sponsors as well…
the boys were up for a new challenge and i believe they pulled it off really well…
the hail was something that no one could have predicted, and i’m sure the boys wouldn’t let such news affect them, cos it’s not worth it at all..
we’ve all seen how the korean media has responded to JYJ so far, and much of it aint’ pretty, but whatever it is, the fans have their hearts with the boys and that’s all that matters, and i’m sure all that were there had the time of their lives…
people attend concerts for the wonderful music, not a special effects show… and every cent was damn well worth it..
By: stephanie on November 29, 2010
at 3:29 pm
i agree with you,,,i think many ahjumma who attend this concert rite???this article is SME biased,,,
By: puthree on November 29, 2010
at 3:35 pm
OMG…this is definetely SM bias……y mention and compare SM in the first place….?….y cant they compare about the attendence which is more than sm town…..and that it was directed by a famous direc and choreo n is basicallly high standard cuz back up dancers r experience with michael jackson…etc….sm town is cheap cuz they didnt import dancer and etc frm anywhere…….
JYJ brought professinals especially for fans….and fans did not complain either…….i heard that ppl say it was worth waiting outside the cold place…they even sell blankets for fans cuz they care…….URGHHHHHH….
By: slak1991 on November 29, 2010
at 3:29 pm
coz they suck SME balls! I regret reading this….i need a chill pil now. *Go listen to Fallen Leaves ~~~~ ah the bliss*
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:32 pm
It looks like the writer want JYJ seems bad compared to what SM do.. But he/she can’t do anything when it come to their performance n fans’ cheer..
By: Vie_HaNeul on November 29, 2010
at 3:31 pm
I suppose it’s thrilling for journalists to write something ‘critical’ like this? XD
But in all fairness, they are just starting as a new group, they need feedback from the members of the general public – negative and positive alike – so they can plan better – if they want to survive the industry. They also need this kind of news to plan their future PR strategies. And face it, they are controversial to start with – especially with TVXQ and SM’s problems hanging on their coat tails all the time. It’s bound to be difficult from time to time.
Fighting Jaejoong, Yoochun, Junsu! Don’t you dare disappear on us! Bring us more exciting and perfect stage and performance in the future!
By: pocky_the_super_snack on November 29, 2010
at 3:35 pm
Sorry I just had to share. John Mayer had a concert here a few months ago and it was raining so hard and it was open ground but no one complained and nobody gave any negative write up on it. In fact, the press i my country was rather amazed that the fans still attended bec it was really raining so hard and has been raining like crazy before the concert.
My point is, shouldn’t the writer praise JYJ’s fame instead because it was clearly frigid and I think I read someone said it was starting to snow and there was a hail before the concert but 35,000 fans still attended to support them. And I heard the concert rocked.
By: sansukini on November 29, 2010
at 3:35 pm
yep, don’t understand why they have to write negatively while in fact I think many fans really enjoyed the performance
sigh korean ent media IS korean ent media
By: pocky_the_super_snack on November 29, 2010
at 3:46 pm
The boys are not to be blamed but it is the truth that the concert dint really live up to its expectation of world class stage where no one has ever experienced before as avertised previously by the boys’ agency. The ticket is definitely overpriced.
By: jinny on November 29, 2010
at 3:36 pm
so what is overpriced…fans understand what they have gone thro now…everything they have to do for the first time…they did their best and i believe what count is fans love them on both nights….all i heard is great good amazing testimonial from fans who were there for concert….not until this article….seriously pissed me off..
By: cucu on November 29, 2010
at 3:52 pm
They have prepared the Dome ceiling for special effects, those were destroyed by natural disaster but it still cost a lot. There were Americans in the Production team including the foreign dancers which they have to provide lodging, food, pay, transport, training places, etc. NO SPONSORS at all… that add up a lot to their costs of Production… which is why the tickets are pricey… which I don’t they they left any profit. They didn’t even do advertisements. It is UNFAIR to compare at all…
They did their best in setting up the changes of the stage in a few hours to make up for the lost special effects… It’s commendable. We should be proud and thankful that they managed to pull through thanks to their Production team. And no major incidents happened due to the sudden change of weather. Be thankful
By: faith-in-TVXQ on November 29, 2010
at 4:27 pm
You can’t compare their ticket price with big companies’. Basically, if you’re not big enough to have your own manpower and produce much enough products, your price wil be absolutely high. Their cost is high compared to other big companies. And ofcourse they also have less sponsors.
And I think the laser thing is nothing. I’ve attended many concerts of SM and I have to say that their special effect cannot make me impressed except the boys. Don’t talk about the sound. it’s just so suck.
At least my two friends attended JYJ’s concert and they said it’s the best concert they’ve ever seen. No need to care much about the media.
And you know, the ticket prices in Kore are are even cheper than in my country.
By: nokaejoong on November 30, 2010
at 12:15 am
OMG…this is definetely SM bias……y mention and compare SM in the first place….?….y cant they compare about the attendence which is more than sm town…..and that it was directed by a famous direc and choreo n is basicallly high standard cuz back up dancers r experience with michael jackson…etc….sm town is cheap cuz they didnt import dancer and etc frm anywhere…….
JYJ brought professinals especially for fans….and fans did not complain either…….i heard that ppl say it was worth waiting outside the cold place…they even sell blankets for fans cuz they care…..
By: slak1991 on November 29, 2010
at 3:37 pm
Harsh articles are to be expected. Just roll with it. Media is media. However:
“The concert’s stage effects would have been a bit better if they went on with their original plan in covering the open ceiling with a specially-made dome, but due to the grueling weather, this plan was scrapped.”
^
“…would have been a bit better…” So the journalist has seen the special effects and original production already while JYJ were rehearsing? Otherwise, this comment is absolutely baseless.
“…but due to grueling weather, this plan was scrapped.” Written in such a way that implies that production purposefully discarded the idea. Incorrect fact therefore discredit to the journalist. From what I’m led to believe, JYJ reported that hail ruined the dome, forcing them to remove it due to the DANGER it poses. Unless insider of insiders report otherwise, I’m sticking by JYJ on this.
I’m not analyzing the rest of this. The only part I can agree with was the lack of backup plan (which resulted in an emergency that shouldn’t have been an emergency, which raises flags in my head that they’re rushing too fast) but that’s it. This article is trying to create controversies with the whole unnecessary SM comparison to get more page reads. I can smell the stench.
By: asterfall on November 29, 2010
at 3:42 pm
There was a picture of the installed ceiling a few days ago. So yes, the production DID go along with the plan. It’s just that the unexpected hail destroyed it T__T
By: Lee on November 29, 2010
at 4:05 pm
Exactly.
Man…I know this idea is SUPER IMMATURE (and I normally won’t give this a fleeting thought but I blame it on lack of sleep and hormones) but it makes me wanna write a long angry comment in English (if they allow commenting on their page) stressing that international fans are always watching. Time and time again I’ve seen unfair media reporting (and not just JYJ but others – Tablo incident, anyone? – I’m not familiar with Rain, but I hear fans crying outrage over the report on gambling lawsuit issue too).
Always this fear of losing the Hallyu wave. WELL. You’re damaging the so-called Hallyu wave on your own by biased reporting, K-media – of course, not that other countries are immune to biased news reporting, but Korean media, who seems to care that much more about their image, should know that there are people watching them – people that they want to make a good impression on. Blegh.
JYJ is known to have international fans too so I don’t get it. Are K-media honestly trying to drive out JYJ from their own country by doing minimal reporting and criticism – some which attack character (which shouldn’t be in ‘news’ but in an opinionated review) – when JYJ attempts to do more?
By: asterfall on November 29, 2010
at 4:15 pm
if they really want to “critic”… they can write something like the cover for the dome is collapsed… they need to think plan B before the concert just in case something like this happened… but anyway, the concert still continue and they give their best performance that night…
but this article not article to critic the boys.. but this is article specially made to bash them!
By: frozen flower on November 29, 2010
at 3:43 pm
I think, in this situation, it’s not easy to find anyone/any company in Korea who dares to work with JYJ and I think our boys are lucky enough to have their team right now. (At the moment) CJeS seems to be true friends and the boys seem to be happy.
**
In the future, hope CJeS/JYJ’s team will make thing better and better for the boys.
The concert was really amazing and fans were also amazing!!! We can have more beautiful dome next time. ^^
** btw I don’t see any need to mention SM in the article, wondering how much he gets paid from SM??
By: noriihana on November 29, 2010
at 3:43 pm
I agree with you.
Seems like CJeS really take good care of the boys. It’s not easy to find company who willing to spend their efforts for faceless singers & get bashed from the fans if something went wrong.
By: Kur4tinc on November 29, 2010
at 4:08 pm
sad but true. also the prices shouldn’t be compared because obviously SME would have more sponsors for the concert and maybe even a “discounted” price or something for stadium rental fees (since it’s obvious that they have strong connections).
Failure to mention that the dome was taken down b/c of hail is…unprofessional. Writer either didn’t do his job to understand the context of all the fixes or decided to omit that info.
I agree about having a Plan B in place would’ve been better but WTF is that line questioning their professionalism and consideration of fans…0.o
By: DBSJRocks on November 29, 2010
at 4:11 pm
If JYJ & their staff deserved any criticism, it would be their lack of plan B.
How dare this fxxker (excuse my language) say that the boys need to work on “professionalism and consideration to the audience”?!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun aren’t professional and have no consideration for the audience, I don’t know WHO are/have!!!!!
If this fxxker (excuse me again) had left out this one line, I’d likely have actually found this article ‘fair’. But no, the author’s total failure and made the most wrongful accusation, and it seriously pissed me off!!!
By: starfield on November 29, 2010
at 3:44 pm
no need to feel bad with the curse word since the writer indeed a fucker. there i said it for you since im flipping mad reading this.
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 3:48 pm
i SOOOOO agreee with u!!!
By: slak1991 on November 29, 2010
at 3:54 pm
The article is harsh, but its statements aren’t unfounded. JYJ’s management is ridiculous and JYJ themselves have to shoulder some of the blame as well. I hope the boys do in fact read this and that they grow from the criticism. Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu are grown men now, they have to roll with the punches maturely.
I’m always the first person to call SME out on shady business, but it’s pathetic to blame them this time around. The article writer isn’t biased, they’re just stating the facts.
By: jaejoongshi on November 29, 2010
at 3:45 pm
sad but true. also the prices shouldn’t be compared because obviously SME would have more sponsors for the concert and maybe even a “discounted” price or something for stadium rental fees (since it’s obvious that they have strong connections).
Failure to mention that the dome was taken down b/c of hail is…unprofessional. Writer either didn’t do his job to understand the context of all the fixes or decided to omit that info.
I agree about having a Plan B in place would’ve been better but WTF is that line questioning their professionalism and consideration of fans…0.o
By: DBSJRocks on November 29, 2010
at 3:54 pm
oops…hit the reply button for the wrong comment.
By: DBSJRocks on November 29, 2010
at 4:10 pm
???????????sm groupie here
By: cucu on November 29, 2010
at 4:03 pm
i think they just being objective…definitely not SM groupie.
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:10 pm
If I were to be in Korea, I would go for both concerts despite the cold just for the boys <3
No, seriously, I will do that.
About the price of the tickets… Check out the 45-minutes-long Singapore showcase's ticket prices…
“Yu-chun recently posted the video for the number’s choreography on his twitter”
… Need me to conclude about the reliability of it? (: Or did they make the same mistake as JJ did during the Saipan vacation? (calling Yoochun ‘Junsu-sshi, OMG I laughed for hours at YC’s reaction)
Ahahahaha I can imagine Chunnie doing the I’m-eyeing-you-thing with his hands at the person who wrote this article… XDDDD
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 3:45 pm
yeah but we(singaporeans) still gladly paid..haha the prices were steep but for the boys.. ^^
By: applexe on November 29, 2010
at 3:48 pm
Exactly! So I really don’t see the point about them complaining about the tickets prices for a 2.5 hour-long concert.
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 3:58 pm
“but it seems they will need to work on the basics: professionalism and consideration to the audience.
Okay WTF is this?!
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 4:16 pm
it’s a friggin JYJ concert.so who curr about laser,fly watsoever effects? ;_;
By: ryuu29 on November 29, 2010
at 3:49 pm
LOL yeah!
By: noriihana on November 29, 2010
at 3:51 pm
YES THIS!!!
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:04 pm
its not a freaking circus to begin with…..
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:07 pm
(Y) I LOVE YOU HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 4:13 pm
IKR! Honestly speaking, I hate all the effects and the blardy shining lights turning everywhere. Those things annoy me and disrupt my view of the guys.
The blinding lights are the WORST, bloody shone it into my eyes and I couldn’t see properly for minutes )))):
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 4:11 pm
yup! agree!
By: hamaji on November 29, 2010
at 4:25 pm
agree with you mrs. Unloyal Park
By: meLOVEchun on November 29, 2010
at 4:45 pm
i think this concert was better compared to their previous concerts. plus, the dancers were really great and had good choreography. They even had an orchestra, people hanging, and I thought it was well presented. And, the boys don’t have alot of sponsors like sme so of course their tickets would be more. I also love the songs and they sounded awesome.
By: 666 on November 29, 2010
at 3:50 pm
yeah, agree. i will pay for them to sing (with or without a mic) too. who care abt the effects???? Can anybody tell me he/she went for the concert because JYJ promised there would be a ‘Dome’???? Anybody feel being cheated for not having the ‘dome’ as he/she ‘has paid’ for the price ??
Come on, we are talking abt music, we are talking abt art, we are talking abt the ppl we love & support for the musician we like. Of course i dont deny they can do better in the future, but it doesn’t mean that i want a better laser or fireworks effects.
Aahhh, i guess the idiot who wrote the article won’t understand it. All he/she care about is “the weather is cold…the show was fun and entertaining”. Actually i am quite sick with this “fun & entertaining”…our boys concert is not for fun & entertainment, it is a performance, OK!? About professionalism and consideration to the audience?? Mind your own business first as I think this is what you need most, Mr./Ms. journalist. I can understand if the idiot said the boys are inexperience and a lot of things to learn from but it has nothing to do with their professinalism.
By: myjy2 on November 29, 2010
at 6:06 pm
Sorry, click reply at the wrong comment. Please refer to below comment by channya:
If concert only have JYJ with 3 mics on the stage I still go to their concert
By: myjy2 on November 29, 2010
at 6:10 pm
If concert only have JYJ with 3 mics on the stage
I still go to their concert
By: chanya on November 29, 2010
at 3:52 pm
For me, the more reason I will want to go for their concert <3
By: peiwern on November 29, 2010
at 4:04 pm
muahssss..me too…any price..dear!!
By: cucu on November 29, 2010
at 4:05 pm
i go to^^
By: sarangjae on November 29, 2010
at 4:08 pm
me too..
By: Claire on November 29, 2010
at 4:25 pm
Ahh even if they were singing in a park without mics I would still pay to go watch @.@
By: starflake on November 29, 2010
at 4:25 pm
me too, as long as i can see the boys singing, wherever the place, don’t matter to me
By: hamaji on November 29, 2010
at 4:28 pm
Agreed… I would pay any price!!!
By: Antz25 on November 29, 2010
at 10:25 pm
Why it should be compare to SM Concert? Is it because JYJ used to be under SM?
They should compare this concert to other concerts that had been held in Korea also: the ticket price, the venue, the attendance.
For faceless singers to held 2 days concert with 35,000 attendance in day 1 is quite amazing. Especially these faceless singers can’t appear in TV or radio music program to promote their songs. They can only promote the concert mostly by Twitter, Internet & Fans Forum. Even newspapers seem hesitate to inform about the concert.
Seems like someone or a company paid this reporter to write this article, since it’s totally bias.
By: Kur4tinc on November 29, 2010
at 3:52 pm
i hope yunho and changmin go to the concert
but no one know they come to the
concert in korea
By: zatiedbsk on November 29, 2010
at 3:52 pm
exactly how many fans went to the cncert?on both 1st n 2nd day.i need true data,nt sum assumption..lol
By: ryuu29 on November 29, 2010
at 3:56 pm
well i think most of us don’t really care about the stupid flashy display we care most about the boys seriously this articles isn’t worth to read anyway =) we fans should know they always want the best for us but not everything turns out the way we want right? ^^ i’m just glad the boys are safe and happy =) but i hope their management will be improved hehe~~~i don’t want our boys to get any more stupid criticism when it’s not their problem ><
By: chocogurl on November 29, 2010
at 3:56 pm
for malaysia showcase.. the rice tix is RM880… it’s around USD280 and around KRW322000… Just for showcase that less than an hour,.. But we all happy.. happy to see them live.. ^^ it totally worth it^^
But why this media issued about the tix price?
By: hana on November 29, 2010
at 3:56 pm
pretty much this….i paid that tix price as well.
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:07 pm
haha..so i paid more to see them in msia b4 for just about 45min showcase?lol.
but i dnt think it’s tt expensive for me,it’s all worth it..>.<
By: ryuu29 on November 29, 2010
at 4:32 pm
hahahaha
By: zatiedbsk on November 29, 2010
at 3:59 pm
are u happy JYJ getting negative critiques? Want me to slap some senses in you? I need to relieve my anger now. You just inviting my flame~~~
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:06 pm
WOW.. what a pro-SM article.
By: Emilyn on November 29, 2010
at 4:02 pm
So their points are…
-ticket was too expensive
-weather was no good (too cold)
-the show could have been better with original plan (roof)
-the delay
-boys are unprofessional
Hey Korea time, JYJ could have had postpone their concert due to weather(hail)/S.Korea’s problem with N.Korea to avoid this kind of media news by you and other but they didn’t. They still did it for the fans who wanted/could go to see them (some may wanted to go but can’t due to exam & weather).
Your review not only look down on jyj but also “their fans“.
By: joice1st on November 29, 2010
at 4:03 pm
Aishh….What’s wrong with the journalist ? Was he/she paid by SMent ?
By: LiMiJoo on November 29, 2010
at 4:07 pm
sad to hear ‘most’ or ‘few’ korean journalist have already had bad negative remarks for JYJ even before the concert. they take the opportunity and plus it off wit the Dome roof top and delay as an excused.
Sad to see korean media still lack behind….the way they preceived and thinking is is not even near par with western journalism. most of it just crap for to get money..even hurting, dirt ppl/star/artist.
the writer (korean) just sold off JYJ for adoption. he/she sounded like living in the year of barbarian… where the competition to get food is to kill each other, even if it your own countrymen. did they ever realise, IT- Technology is fast, what you wrote or say, within second, all over the world will read and know.
In relation to the above, JYJ is well known all over asia and part of the world. Sad to see this writer negative remarks toward their own people. Even we the international fan support proud of jyj. jyj own ppl, countrymen, only know how to badmouth the trio.
anyway, for me jyj give all out thru this concert. my 100% proud of the boys.
By: dove on November 29, 2010
at 4:09 pm
OMG this articles really harsh.don’t blame JYJ. they even already apologize to all fans.poor JYJ. T___T
By: helen on November 29, 2010
at 4:12 pm
F***! I can feel anger in my veins now! The boys are blamed for the freaking bad weather?!! Or artists shouldn’t hold concerts at all during winter to avoid the unexpected? As far as I know, the sudden hail storm messed up their original preparation, which was probably the cause of the delay. But the concert started on time on the 2nd night, why didn’t this article mention it? Which Cassie would give a damn about the dome, the laser, or other things. True fans only need to see JYJ on stage, don’t those stupid reporters get that? >”<
This concert is like a come-back stage for JYJ in Korea, being on their own. They did their best & sang their hearts out for fans. Yet, the media doesn't appreciate it or at least give them neutral response. Instead, they try to dig up & criticize even the smallest thing! JYJ don't have big sponsors or company behind their back, shouldn't the media at least give them some encouragement? About the ticket price, in the U.S if not because of the visa problem, we would still spend $200 to attend their 1-hr showcase ok?
All in all, I'm never fond of C-JES because their mistakes or negligence have hurt the boys' reputation for quite some times already. I hope they can find a better management company to work with in the near future. T__T
By: love_DBSJ on November 29, 2010
at 4:27 pm
I agree, it’s sad that they don’t get at least 2 or 3 interviews about their concerts like they did in the past. I feel that korea is looks down on the boys when other praise them. And, I also feel that korean media is very much runned by money because jyj is one of the top album sellers in korea so I don’t get why they aren’t invited to do variety, music shows in korea, and interiews. Anyways, I luv the direction they are going musically so I hope they continue to do what they love.
By: lin on November 29, 2010
at 4:28 pm
JYJ doesn’t get promotion because of SME. SME has so much clout in Korea that no program would want to risk putting them on. I think the reason that some of Korea might look on them is simply manipulation by SME. SME cannot simply just let the boys go. They have got to be little vindictive kids about it and try to ruin JYJ’s lives.
By: lara on November 29, 2010
at 9:32 pm
They always find someting negative to blame them…but this is weather for God’s sake! yes the tickets are expensive because of the roof but unfortunatelly becuase of the weather they couldn’t use the roof. These kind of problems and delays can happen in every concert.
Why metion SM by the way? I don’t like it.
Their performance was smooth and songs are good then what?
They even mentioned the encore, They have sang 18 songs right? what encore? do you want to kill them?
The only negative thing I can say here is the time of the concert. They can make it on March or April, at a warm weather but I guess they trusted the roof so they made it in November so..there is nothing I can say more.
aynway…there will be these kind of negative things all the time but they won’t defeated we know that. There are lots of people who loves them.
By: nericia on November 29, 2010
at 4:31 pm
About mentioning SME 0.o At least the boys had better technicians than the ones SME hires that always seem to have sound problems at SMTOWN concerts….
By: DBSJRocks on November 29, 2010
at 4:35 pm
and no journalist complain about that.
By: 9mm on November 29, 2010
at 4:48 pm
it’s totally Harsh and SUCK!!
JYJ unprofessional?? they still singing and dancing on that COLD weather and their performance is AWESOME! I just heard them on audio stream last night but I can say their voice so damn GOOD!!
They even more worry bout their fans more than the concert and apologize too,,
Blinded and dafe Journalist!!Korean Media should respect them,I’m not Korean but I respect JYJ/DBSK,,they’re the most precious treasure man w/ great talented!
I thanks God,JYJ go Internasional..
By: Claire on November 29, 2010
at 4:35 pm
huh what the heck this journalist…
hello~~~~
even it’s lacking here and there…
i should say..
it’s better they dont have all the wire, laser thing…
than they sing like crap…
you know why SM love to put soo much laser effect, wire effect and whatever thinggy..
coz they want to cover up the lacking of the artist…
how they can sing live…hahahahaha…
as all know JYJ is really talented that being love by all fans…
they can sing awesomely without all the effect..
despite the cold weather…
stupid journalist…
you should shut up…
bring back TVXQ together…
AKTF
By: arissa on November 29, 2010
at 4:36 pm
wow…this writer is totally biased!!
He/she didnt get all the facts right!
To be professional..one mustnt just write based on one’s feelings/opinion but must be neutral! Totally unacceptable!!!
By: jaeann on November 29, 2010
at 5:00 pm
oh yah right. this article is just LKJHGFSFGHJKLKJHGFSFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what’s most important is that they stood on stage just as they promised to the fans.
whatever useless people!!! get a life. okay??
back off~
By: hyunna on November 29, 2010
at 5:02 pm
omg!!!!!!!!!! THIS ARTICLE IS A TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they make it sound as if JYJ deceived the fans, charged super high price for nothing, and left fans disappointed!!!!!!!!!
hello!!!!!!!!! fans were super duper happy and all i hear is fans wanting for more of such concerts!!!!!!!!!
WTH!!!!!!!!!!! why is the Korean media soooo biased!!!!!!! they always portray the boys in a really bad way.!!! i hate them!!!!!!!!
By: haphuong91 on November 29, 2010
at 5:12 pm
DID THE ASK THE FANS???
I was there for both shows with the most expensive tickets^^
All I can say is…they were more than perfect…Great fun…
Worth every won I paid.
Totally beyond expectation.
By: you make me smile on November 29, 2010
at 5:21 pm
and I am sure that every person there would agree with you and not the stupid “reporter” that wrote this article.
By: Kissari on November 29, 2010
at 7:55 pm
I hope media stop complaining -.-
By: yjcms on November 29, 2010
at 5:26 pm
can we bomb dis writer wif all good reviews from the attendees??grr..
to writer: are u sure those fans shouted “come out!” and “why aren’t you coming out!” more like “it’s freezing cold here, so come out fast!!!u want me to die frozen or what??!!”? cos i have d feeling dat it’s more like “i want to see u so badly..so come out faster!!^^)”
but what’s more important is the boys n fans had great time together!! =D
By: tomajaelover on November 29, 2010
at 5:33 pm
ahem..
new song to SM neh!!
Mission.
1,2,3 gooo..
Mission mission make it goo..
Probably you’re money is unpublic,,try to save my life like a puppy and cream,
Another hot MOVIE character bumble bee, treat me like a slave & i pray is it halloween.
Trick or treast oh please dont even try to pull my head own your way.
Brand new person. A man?
so f*ck off NO MORE TALK…
….
like other said with or without that roof cassies are still going to that concert,,
with or without so much effect cassies are still going..
just looking at fancam i think JYJ team did a really wonderful and unforgettable concert there…
for God sake leave them alone…why dont you instead write all the positive thing..
like “JYJ held a VERRY successfull concert,,even thought they didnt have a change to promote tehre concert on TV,Radio etc…and due to very cold weather still they are many cassie’s going to support and see them!!”
.
who write this article i maybe slap it in his face…
dont look us cassies down.. coz i dont think cassie well only go there just to watch that roof and and effect..
before you make sooo negative article make it since for once…
By: dbsklove on November 29, 2010
at 5:36 pm
we just need them to sing for us that’s all… that is the most important thing stupid journalist haaaaaah…. WE APPRECIATE the FACT that they CONTINUED the SHOW even though it is freezing cold! and the fans are more than happy that they DID!
che…. as if TVXQ don’t know the basics.. they are there for a long time even though they are using JYJ now NO ONE CAN CHANGE the FACT that these 3 is part of TVXQ together with Yunho and Changmin love… and when we are talking about TVXQ they are PROFESSIONALS! they are the gods on this industry of course they know the basics duuhh.. hahaha… and together with them is the godess of FANGIRLING CASSIOPEIA… who is genderless so FANBOYING is included hahahahahhahahahha…
so this article is soooo bias and I am kinda pissed off so I need to relax.. hahahah…
TVXQ FIGHTING! JYJ FIGHTING!
By: chasty018 on November 29, 2010
at 6:13 pm
I had to restrain my anger right away when I read some parts of this article.
By: suri on November 29, 2010
at 6:41 pm
i forgot to mention mr journalist i don’t think any dong bang boys concerts need EXTRAVAGANT laser displays~~~cause jyj concerts may not have those LASER displays which u oh so think is important but their new songs and AMAZING choreography shock me indeed XD especially MISSION OMG sexy~~~
By: chocogurl on November 29, 2010
at 6:50 pm
oh i forgot he’s practically insulting jeri slaughter, jyj us dancers, and our boys themselves! their hard work to give such an amazing concerts! and i thank god that their dancers enjoyed themselves and our boys as well =) who cares about dome or no dome and laser or no laser, we fans care most is the boys =) i’m certainly most proud of them~ korean entertainment press can go F*ck OFF no more talk XP
By: chocogurl on November 29, 2010
at 6:52 pm
Hey maybe the report is accurate after all, that the bad weather and the cold was caused by JYJ. They’re sposed to be gods right? So maybe they know how to control the weather so that the thousands and thousands of cassies will freeze at the concert! Or maybe its a conspiracy by the blanket sellers perhaps? LOL
But that aside, I read that the poor boys were really freezing themselves on stage. No blanket, no hand warmers, no cassies to hug for warmth. They were apparently seen shivering and had a hard time singing their best in the frigid wind. But everyone could see they were trying their best!
And eventhough the cold weather was no fault of theirs, they apologised profusely. And I dunno why it looks as if they are solely to be blamed when much of the organisation work is the company’s responsibility. The boys already looked ultra professional to me.
Such a BIASED report!! Pui!!
By: pixelminor on November 29, 2010
at 6:54 pm
sorry out of topic..
but i really want to know is there any fanaccount for this 2 days concert??..i want to know in detail what actually happen there..
and of course i want to know the audience feeling about all this thing too..
i not even bother to read this kind of sm biased journalist..
By: syi on November 29, 2010
at 7:01 pm
Erm excuse me. 11,000 won for a concert ticket? It will be around USD $9.50 ??? Is there a typo?!
By: Yunnie on November 29, 2010
at 7:11 pm
Not a typo, just a plain lie.
By: Lisa on November 30, 2010
at 3:07 am
Oops. I researched it and the prices for SM concert are correct.
By: Lisa on November 30, 2010
at 11:50 am
I just needed to read one paragraph of this article to know that the publication must be paid for by SME.
The Korean Entertainment Industry isn’t very healthy and SME is the most cut-throat of all the agencies. They don’t treat their artists like human beings because it’s all about the money and the success. TVXQ is one of their biggest and best brands ever. I say brand for a reason. Because SME sees the five boys as money making tools. And not humans. That’s why JYJ left. They had enough. HoMin probably stayed for reasons that I honestly don’t want to know about. It probably isn’t very nice.
I am serious, just to get even more ranty – look at how many artists have tried to get away from SME – H.O.T. (JTL) (and the only reason Kangta stayed was because he is an SME shareholder. Same with BoA. There is a big difference between them and the regular artist at SME), Shinhwa, Han Geng and our boys.
JYJ cannot control the weather, and it’s a miracle that the concert went on. That’s how professional these boys are.
I hope that the Korean fans get to read other reviews than this obviously-paid-for-by SME review. That’s the problem that our boys face in Korea – most of the media is being paid by SME.
I apologise to anyone reading this – I know this has just become an SME rant now, but seriously, this article reeks of SME. It makes me sick.
By: lara on November 29, 2010
at 7:14 pm
As a fan of H.O.T, I can only tell you…you best be praying HARD that the same thing doesn’t happen to DBSK. If history repeats itself, SM will offer Yunho and Changmin shares of the company. The minute they do you can kiss a DBSK reunion goodbye for at least a good ten years. >.<
*sigh* And I was hoping Shinhwa's success in getting out spelled an end to this cycle
By: Jimmie on November 29, 2010
at 7:51 pm
OMG…well if sm offer yunho and changmin shares of the company..who wouldn’t want that? haiz i don’t want to think that far now >< just gonna enjoy and indulge myself with what our boys are doing =)
By: chocogurl on November 29, 2010
at 8:00 pm
oh gosh, thats scary! i hope the same thing wont happen to our boys! I love H.O.T and J.T.L! I love shinhwa as well! all these bands are legend! I hope JYJ can survive from SM attack! n they can be strong!
we will always behind you!!! AKTF!
By: noopie on November 29, 2010
at 10:45 pm
no need to apologise. That how EVIL SME are. IT not easy to organize an event, months of preparation, sleepless night, going thru every details, an experienced event coordinator..they will always ‘murphy law’ syndrom…we cannot pre-see/ what going to happen on actual day. especially, when thing beyond our control like the weather, natural disaster. It not a wise choice to have plan A or Plan B – change of venue, most likely on the day itself, not a good decision . JYJ have two choices a) to proceed with the concert or b) to cancel it. i believe that JYJ did considered those international fan that came to korea, spending their money on airfare. and they(JYJ) promise to their fan…they decided to proceed.
i attended few international star/artist concert, hey one hour delay is normal. some big star even longer that them or worst getting x’cel.
again the writer is SM dongkey….dongkey slave.
By: rose on November 29, 2010
at 8:00 pm
Ok, I get what this journalist wanna say but seriously since it’s the international album and from what I understand is that they wanna walk out from SM shadow and I guess they didn’t expect anything to be so EXTRAVEGANSA…you can tell from the name of the group ‘JYJ’ it’s simple just that. So, I don’t think so much of all those Boom Bang Boom effect or whatsoever is needed.
Give them a chace to prove themselves, if you don’t count all the years they’ve been in DBSK this can consider as their very first new beginning. Any mistakes may occur at any moment. Give them a room to breath man…..don’t just expect everything to be like all the concert in Korea.
This is only my 2 cents.
By: fastlane on November 29, 2010
at 7:51 pm
Heres my fast two cents on this article.
1. They DID prepare by putting up a roof to keep fans warmer, and it would have shielded fans from most of the rain and snow if it did.
2. It hailed. Who the hell predicts HAIL? How often does HAIL come down? And they couldn’t have done anymore against the weather, because of korean safety laws.
It was bad luck on a dice roll. End of story. They couldn’t have done anymore than they did.
By: Lol on November 29, 2010
at 8:09 pm
This assh*** is a lier too. The tickets were selling for 55.000-135.000 won (153.000 for VIP, don’t remember the exact price, but it was defin. 15*.000, not higher than that). Where this piece of sh** took “110,000 won to 198,000 won”??
Or is that the price SM paid him to write this crap?
By: ItsMyFinger on November 29, 2010
at 8:23 pm
Such obvious lying is pathetic. SME cannot find any fault with our boys so they have to resort to lying.
By: lara on November 29, 2010
at 9:34 pm
The article is just so inaccurate. They did have a dome roof, but a sudden hail storm destroyed it. I wonder if anyone could contact the writer to inform them of their mistake (in a polite way).
By: Nic on November 29, 2010
at 8:41 pm
i think d management already did a good job
yhe problem here is not paln a or back up plan
it’s d weather n it’s unpredictable
so, what?d back up plan to chnage d venue?
do rmmbr that yuchun mntion it’s take 3 days to rpair d dome.
i try to read this as least bias as possible, but i think istead of questioning d professionalism of d managemnets n trio..
the journanlist also shud ask her/his professionalism.
tqvm.
By: D on November 29, 2010
at 8:51 pm
This article has SM written all over it, I bet they’re pulling all the strings … I’m sorry but they can’t bring JYJ down. I’ve seen JYJ perform in New York and they really have a great future. Scratch this article and lets just continue to support JYJ.
By: bristlecone on November 29, 2010
at 9:10 pm
LOL..whatever
with such high price and despite of all the situation they still managed to get 35k fans each day…duh!
so STFU!LOL..YONGWONHI BYE BYE BYE!
By: IamMe on November 29, 2010
at 9:31 pm
er i thought it was higher than that? O.O XD lol is 35k fans the exact amount that went? >< i thought it was higher?
By: chocogurl on November 29, 2010
at 9:35 pm
ohh..I saw it in the media reviews..they said its around 35K for the first day, and same goes to the second day..i dunno the exact number though..but what i know is..there are A LOT well A BIG NUMBER of fans that came..^^
By: IamMe on November 29, 2010
at 9:53 pm
Around 65-66.000 of tickets were sold for both days, the first day had a couple of thousands more people than the second. I took this number judging by how many tickets were left unsold out of 100.000 – less than 17.000 for the first day and about 18.000 for the second.
By: ItsMyFinger on November 29, 2010
at 10:29 pm
But seriously, what SM artist except for TVXQ has such a selling power? None! Who’s able to sell without promotions? None! Hence the butthurt feeling in SM managament.
By: ItsMyFinger on November 29, 2010
at 10:31 pm
Forgot to mention that 65.000 tickets were sold despite the high price and the exam “season” where many couldn’t go (or weren’t allowed to go).
I applaud our guys, I really do.
By: ItsMyFinger on November 29, 2010
at 10:33 pm
“they will need to work on the basics: professionalism and consideration to the audience”
THIS!!!!
Excuse me whoever-you-are-who-wrote-this-stupid-article, if the aren’t professional and have no consideration towards the fans NO ONE…I mean NO ONE will come to their concert… But there are 80.000 people there!!! All cheering for them!!!
Gosh… I would pay $1000 if that means I get to see them perform in my country!!!
By: Antz25 on November 29, 2010
at 10:10 pm
the devil has a face and SME is its name.
By: baboink8 on November 29, 2010
at 10:30 pm
THIS IS THE BADD BADD ARTICLE I EVER SEEN,SME IS BEHIND THE PAGE…
By: michelle on November 29, 2010
at 10:52 pm
WE’RE LIVING SO FAR FROM KOREA ,I’M NOT A KOREAN EITHER ,BUT ME AND ALL OF MY FRIEND WHO LOVES JYJ,THE AMERICAN PEOPLES ,WE DON’T THINK THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITING BY A JOURNALIST WHO HAVE A HEART -OR A LICENSE TO WRITE THE TRUTH IN PAPER…
By: michelle on November 29, 2010
at 10:57 pm
Aigooo this article really make me sad i thinks sm behind this page. Oww syc why you post this pliz delele this post for me hiks
just like chunie says in shelther haters to haters different story of mine the lyrics really match with this situation
By: Euphune on November 29, 2010
at 11:45 pm
damn man…this journalist are stupid to bring up SM=ideas…
aren’t they realize, by now Many International MEDIAS hv their eyes on JYJ
BUT THIS JOURNALIST!! He/She gave out such bad impression of Korean Media!!!!
by writing something bad abt their fellow-korean-artist as like ‘poisoning’ them to death sloooowly…
also Not To Forget, International Media might digging to see “Who’s SM?”>> only to found abt “the Court Verdic” AND THAN….BAM!!! >>> “SLAVE CONTRACT SLAM KOREAN MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT??!”<<< o.O
DAMN!! This person AND His/Her Media Office should Think before done stupid!!
By: ice on November 29, 2010
at 11:49 pm
edit; KEYWORD>>KOREAN MEDIA TRY TO DISTROY KOREAN WAVE????!!!
By: ice on November 29, 2010
at 11:51 pm
i feel like crying…i hate articles like this that just could’nt seem to appreciate what the musicians nowadays do.
they only focus on all the negative parts and blaming the musicians for everything.
Weather goes bad which resulted in the special effects plan cancelled and thus resulting in the delay is also JYJ’s fault?
its just mother’s nature,what has JYJ got to do with it -.-
but i guess what we fans can be proud of is that we know JYJ did well,they tried their hardest to put a good show for the fans.
By: YunJae on November 29, 2010
at 11:55 pm
Trade me spots, mean journalist \(>o<)/. If you're just going to be hatin' on them, I would gladly (jumping with joy, actually) take your spot since I have NEVER seen them live. You can do my homework, I will enjoy JYJ. Win-win situation, right?
Plus, how would he know what the fans are feeling? We love JYJ for many reasons, and "professionalism and consideration to the audience" is part of it, DUH!!!
By: shalynxp3 on November 30, 2010
at 12:28 am
Oh, and mr. journalist—*Meeh~~rong!*
~kekeke~
(Yes I know I’m being childish, but this type of media coverage deserves it and more)
By: shalynxp3 on November 30, 2010
at 12:47 am
Even in shipping there is a force majeure clause for god sake -*-
It’s not like every winter you’ll have the hail storm…not blizzard but hail people!
Phew…if it’s hail storm…sm would just friggin cancel it…they cancelled the thing for no friggin reason before -*-
knowing that compare it with sm would make a controversy still they brought it up duh~
True…there’s no special effect but you gotta use your brain and actually think why it is like that…put yourself in their shoes and think!
They are not harry potter that can just hold a wander muttering some friggin magic and the roof is done…
If they could climb up and hold the roof and protect it…they would do it but guess what? though you put 1000 people up there the roof would be ruined still.
You know I know people love criticize others…but I would love to hear more on suggestion.
These people should suggest ‘how to protect the roof from that damn hail storm’!
I’m pissed!
By: nyx on November 30, 2010
at 1:02 am
Oh anyone remember dbsk concert in Taipei?
What can SM – the professional big ass agency – do when the Taiphoon hit?
Didn’t all cass need to be there in the rain regardless of the danger of the situation that the gov need to make them cancel? Correct me if I’m wrong…
Could SM find a roof for them?
But hey…natural disaster is something that can’t be controlled!
You expect them to have a spare ceiling?
By: nyx on November 30, 2010
at 1:29 am
Isn’t it remarkable that despite the scary situation at the border, so many foreign fans bravely came to Seoul to support JYJ? To be fair, I don’t think any kind of preparation would have withstood horrible weather. We saw from the pre-concert pictures of the venue that a marquee/makeshift “ceiling” was installed over the open stadium but this was unfortunately ripped apart the night before. Packs of ice littered the stadium ground as evidence of how the ceiling couldn’t hold up to the strong wind and hail. JYJ was more than apologetic about this and Jaejung explained in his twitter that it would have taken 3 days to reinstall the marquee. So I imagine, if it took three days to install the makeshift roof, they had to rush all day to take out all the ripped covering hanging about so as not to endanger anybody. Thankfully, there was a plastic block covering under the chairs to keep the wetness of the ground from our feet and protect us from the slippery ground, and the concert crew handed out heating packs as we entered the stadium. The stage was beautiful and I loved the big screens since these allowed us people at the back to see more of JYJ. Honestly I would have loved an encore performance, but I appreciated the insight on JYJ’s part of not keeping us in the cold a moment longer. It would have been horrifying to miss the last train and fight for a cab in the freezing cold with the thousands of concert goers. Lastly, I admit that because of the bad effects of the harsh weather and concern over the border crisis, there seemed to be a pall on the concert mood on Saturday night. Therefore, I find it very professional of JYJ that despite the strange mood at the beginning, they bravely moved forward and performed beautifully for their fans. As I sat shivering in my seat, I kept thinking JYJ must be feeling colder up there on the stage in the beautiful but thin material of their costumes. But not once did they show through their actions that they were suffering from the cold. Instead, they kept thinking of their fans being cold. JYJ is more than worth it. My only regret is that I didn’t come to the site earlier and the JYJ official goods ran out before I can get them. I would have loved a souvenir concert tee at least.
By: vejita on November 30, 2010
at 1:18 am
here’s the thing?
why in the world would a newspaper article would go and compare ticket prices EVEN MORE COINCIDENTALLY WITH SM?
Seriously? of all the recent concerts that was going on they JUST had to pick out SM?
I can understand they want to prove a point about the pricing was expensive but I didn’t that the fans was upset about it.
Correct me if I’m wrong about this small info but while jyj had about ~80,000 fans attended their concert, didn’t SM only had like ~30-40,000 attended with the ‘so low’ ticket prices?
By: anonymous on November 30, 2010
at 1:31 am
Well I’m actually not that mad about the article.
I think is good for them to read harsh criticism because it will help them improve. I know there are things that escape their control such as the weather, but a good organization may help them in the future to overcome some drawbacks
And the journalist said their performance was really good; even those who claim the venue wasn’t good, can’t complain about their skills and how good they are, they can make people forget about the freezing whether, the roff, the price and whatever
By: Alou on November 30, 2010
at 1:45 am
How could he fail to mention that the dome cover was damaged by the hail? Seems like he had his headline before making the story.
I wonder if the SM concert prices are accurate. When they performed in LA they weren’t priced like that.
Surely this concert will be held in other countries. We have to support them strongly to change the Korean medias’ mistreatment.
By: Lisa on November 30, 2010
at 2:39 am
The ticket prices vary according to how many sponsors they can get. Of course SME can get more sponsors in South Korea so their tickets would cost less. JYJ has been all but black balled thanks to SME threatening to pull their other artists out of things if a company works with JYJ so sponsors are very hard to come by. Regardless, they are worth any price and we all know it.
By: Kissari on November 30, 2010
at 5:02 am
This.. is just the type of article that makes people think of JYJ badly if they don’t know the story. I think I may totally believe it if someone told me this writer was paid by SM to do this or something!!!!
The writer even mentioned that JYJ was all cold and frozen up, but tried their best anyway. What does that tell you about professionalism and what did he call it? oh, consideration for the audience. Yeah, it may have been cold but the dome wouldn’t have helped that much with it anyway. But both were due to weather! I have been obsessed with Korean music for years, but never saw an artist who controlled the weather to comfort their fans. Even if I wasn’t K-pop obsessed, I would hear about it, you see. So would the whole world. Jaejoong has in fact been warning the people through twitter.
Also, all the points that this article makes about the quality of the concert fails to praise the things that JYJ has done fantastically, and the writer speaks as if JYJ had promised something EXTRAORDINARY, like a dragon popping out from below the stage to do a fire show or something. He or She compares JYJ’s concert to other concerts, pointing out that it wasnt anything ‘new.’ Well, you see mr or ms biased, that’s as far as technology seems to go these days. It seems like he or she is saying “well this person won a gold medal, but there are many (as in like more than 10..) that win gold medals every year, so its no big deal”
Over priced tickets? Does JYJ eat it all?
Plus, think about the free concerts they ran in NY and CA!
But I do agree that the concert organizers should have done something to make up for the events and comfort the fans might have had with the dome..
either way, the fans were willing to pay the price. i dont think people complained.. why should you, mr or ms editor dude..
WAIT. second to last paragraph.
……………what.
its like.. “so the fans had an amazing night despite all the issues, but im going to point out the worst parts of the concert because of course, issues never happen in life, right?”
PHEW. done my rant.
By: Grace Park on November 30, 2010
at 6:44 am
A lot of people say that they should make a plan B, but failed to realize that most concerts don’t have Plan B, they either just postpone or cancel if natural disaster appear. JYJ chose to perform in cold weather rather than doing those. That’s professionalism. Even if it was delayed, they went out and perform, that’s better than hearing it being postpone in a few days(some people have other plans, and they make plan for that day to be at the concert) or cancel and getting your money back. (Some will feel that they went for nothing, even though they get their money back.)
I think in terms of staging, they could’ve done better, but they’re probably exceed their budget, getting those fabrics to have a dome effect is costly. And I saw a picture in one of the rehearsal picture, there was going to be lasers a top the dome(fabric) and it look so cool, but we can’t blame them because of the natural disaster. It would have been amazing if it wasn’t for the weather. But then again, comparing it to SME is actually very funny, because SME concert never changes in staging. It’s always the same shit. And they have sponsors, so it’s cheap and I bet, SME wouldn’t even care about the student who take exams and give them discount.
Oh well, there is always next time for a better staging.
Oh yeah, the table talk thing is so cool, when they play with the touch table. I think they should bring in more cool gadgets to their concert, even better if they stage it like a fantasy place hehehe.
By: Hazied on November 30, 2010
at 7:01 am
Actually, other concerts don’t have a backup plan for their concert, if natural disaster happened, they just postponed or canceled it, something that I see SME would do LOL. JYJ has a lot of professionalism in them to continue the freaking concert despite bad weather and still put on a fucking show, they wore minimalist clothes and breathed out smoke when they talk, yet still kept a happy face while singing perfectly. Not to mention their dancers, omg, those poor girls wearing such such minimalist clothes in such weather. That’s professionalism for you! And the fans are amazing too, omg they stay in the cold, participate when they were ask to. I would totally go to the concert just to watch the interaction of the performers with their fans. In this case, JYJ and their fans, as well as their dancers. Everything looks perfect to me. And I only watch this through fancams, imagine what I would feel like being their. Would probably jump up and down while feeling butterfly in my stomach and so excited despite it being cold.
By: Hazied on November 30, 2010
at 6:48 am
I thought 40,000 VIP seats were sold on each day. The reporter said there were over 30,000 fans in the concert. Does the reporter have the real fact?
By: 1000 on November 30, 2010
at 8:40 am
If they are not fighting with SME and basically all Korean Entertainment Industry, I too would critic CJES. But, we should not do that (critic) because their situation (JYJ and other management agency) is very different. It’s like comparing apple and orange.
By: Carl on November 30, 2010
at 8:56 am
* I mean fighting against SME
By: Carl on November 30, 2010
at 8:58 am
Article is harsh. CJes management is lacking. Also I don’t see how it’s SM biased. Don’t jump me for defending SM now… I don’t like them. I just don’t see how SM is relevant here.
By: Reeny on November 30, 2010
at 10:50 am
Nvm re read. But still. It’s true. CJes need to get their act together. Imo.
By: Reeny on November 30, 2010
at 10:52 am
I think this reporter was making bad reviews on JYJ Concert because he / she had his / her ass freezing in cold just for this assignment. hahahhahaha
I was so angry yesterday when I first read this article. But now, I’m more calm & getting myself to think that what more important is how the fans felt / thought about the concert. It (the concert) was dedicated for JYJ fans, not for some reporters who didn’t even know JYJ & what JYJ had gone through. Of course good review from media would be helpful to promote JYJ. But who needs promotion when they are already in our hearts ?
JYJ Fighting !!!
By: rui_ying on November 30, 2010
at 10:53 am
BOO YOU SM !
WE KNOW YOU BEHIND THIS !
By: Evelynn` on November 30, 2010
at 11:10 am
“The stadium was originally planned to be covered to protect the fans from the cold weather. However, hail fell on the morning of the concert, prompting the concert organizer to remove the roof structure to prevent any accident.”
from:http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/290149/jyj-attracts-70000-fans-twoday-concert
(from manila bulletin, Philippines)
take note, media from the phillippines has a better view of the of the scenario than the korean media…maybe the writer from the korean times has some hidden agenda thus intentionally deleting some facts that could rationalize why those problems concerning the concert occur… but anyway intelligent populace nowadays are more open-minded and rationale, they don’t absorb everything what media is feeding to them..
By: kris on November 30, 2010
at 12:16 pm
No matter what they say the concert was a success. They weren’t the ones attending the concert so they are just wasting their time complaining about nothing. The ones attended the concert are happy, any reporter writing articles like this are just jealous of JYJ who can captivate the audiences still without that stupid roof and weather.
By: yoochunsarang on December 1, 2010
at 9:32 am