Japan’s renowned music chart Oricon is garnering attention for stating that TVXQ is the reason why Korean girl groups could attain popularity in Japan.
On the 2nd, their column ‘The Eyes of the Editor-in-Chief’ introduced the recent Japanese activities of Korean girl groups such as Kara, 4Minute and Girls’ Generation and pointed out the majority of their Japanese fans are women in their teens and twenties.
Oricon stated, “TVXQ must be credited for K-pop and its girl groups’ successful launch in Japan. It seems that the fans have been feeling a sense of loss since TVXQ suspended all activities, so the fans in their teens and twenties are focusing their attention on Korean girl groups.”
Following this, the columnist added that, “Otherwise, it would have been impossible for these girl groups to have suddenly sold 30,000 copies of their album or have 20,000 people come to their events.”
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so proud of our boys!
By: Koyuki on September 3, 2010
at 8:03 pm
Ah…I hope the girl group’s fans won’t start criticizing DBSK or anything. Though it’s kind of true, the Japanese fans DID notice other Korean acts a little more because of DBSK!
By: hanafanic on September 3, 2010
at 8:03 pm
gezzz, do they have the right? they have to thanks the boys first before criticizing them
By: O.O on September 3, 2010
at 8:07 pm
hard to say…i mean…some (note: SOME, not all) of their fans are pretty defensive and impolite…
but i’m glad that snsd’s doing well in japan
i love yuri and sooyoung T___T
By: hanafanic on September 3, 2010
at 8:11 pm
Surveys showed that lots of Japanese became Kpop fans since last year. That was when DBSK hit it big in Japan & then got trouble with the lawsuit. So DBSK DID help other Korean groups A LOT in gaining Japanese attention.
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 8:35 pm
yeah~ TVXQ paved the way to all these Kpop groups~ BoA and TVXQ infact. Most of these groups recently are having their beeline on the Jap. market unlike our boys who started from the bottom. But success is sweeter earned in a hard way instead of simply riding on this fad IMO~ see what happen if Japan get tired of Korean groups entering their market.They all have this thing their well known of like ‘butt dance’ legs/whatever or IDK what. What will they come up next time to keep the hype surrounding them? TVXQ have their fanbase well established in Japan, pretty much like JE groups. IMO, Jae is a good asset of TVXQ in Japan, he’s already connected w/ other popular Jap.celebrities.
By: Stevie on September 3, 2010
at 9:09 pm
LOL Stevie, I was also thinking about the same thing. With the rate of these Kpop acts going to Japan, how long will this neo-Hallyu last? What other stuff will have to be done to keep them relevant? Interesting to observe actually.
How long will it last? What will the reactions be from the local music scene? I have the impression that Jpop scene is actually more mature than Kpop. They have their own brand of uniqueness already – not everyone will dig it but the sound of Jpop is pretty distinctive.
And most of these groups are signed by Universal and I have the impression that Universal is more for if you want to make a quick big buck in Japan. Avex is more the old fashioned way – building up fan base steadily. Another interesting point to observe further.
By: Orenji Junsu on September 3, 2010
at 9:40 pm
@orenji junsu
i totally agree. it’s definitely interesting to study how things are going, and i love that you mentioned neo-Hallyu, cos as we all know, the first Hallyu wave that hit Japan was merely temporary (minus those older fans of yon-sama). It hit its peak fast, and receded.
I actually think that the girls are riding more on the 2nd Hallyu wave rather than DBSK’s coattails. I’ve just been on akp and a lot of the comments are debating about BoA’s non-mention, the girlgroups own talents and those that disagree on DBSK being leaders. None really mentioned the current trend that anything korean’s cool.
on a side note, groups like KARA (esp.) and SNSD does seem to have a solid, if small, fanbase already before their official Japan debut.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 1:59 am
@iraaa: I think DBSK is also responsible for this 2nd Hallyu wave. I remember reading an article about how Hallyu wave has shifted from K-drama to K-music in 2009. If DBSK didn’t influence Japanese to think that Korean idol groups are of high quality & worthy to check out, then there wouldn’t have been this 2nd Hallyu wave focusing on Kpop.
By: Lee on September 4, 2010
at 2:41 am
i think oricon needs to say ALL groups should thank tvxq for their popularity.
just look at big bang fans. even if hell passed over several times, they’ll still blatantly refuse to admit tvxq helped their debut and popularity. truth be told, they would have never made it on their own.
By: ... on September 4, 2010
at 9:46 am
100% agree !
By: jestine on September 3, 2010
at 8:05 pm
WOW! Cant agree more, that’s all i can say =)
Our boys open up the road and now it’s so easy for Kpop artists to be successful in Japan.
By: Sin on September 3, 2010
at 8:05 pm
THIS!!
and as expected, it comes from Japanese…
Shoot korean media!!!!!=D
By: JJ_freak on September 3, 2010
at 8:11 pm
+10000000
By: italiangirl24 on September 3, 2010
at 8:17 pm
yes shoot them please!
you know, when Kara had a street concert that people can attend for free (but i you wanna get closer you have to pay, i THINK) and they sold they album around 30K +- this made into the news,
but do they report when TVXQ album sold 500K? NO
do they report about the red+orange ocean in A-Nation? NO
do they report about how many records TVXQ broke in japan? NO
do they talk about TVXQ be able to perform in Tokyo Dome as in the place for every JAPANESE singer to do a concert? Barely!
*breath in, breath out*
Sorry if i offend anyone, i didnt mean to.just mad at the korean media.
By: samohty on September 4, 2010
at 12:48 am
there IS a bias, definitely, but the way i look at it, they’re reporting on KARA etc. because of korea’s own interest in the Hallyu wave. and in terms of national interests, they ARE exporting the acts as korean culture ambassadors.
I like the fact that THSK promoted themselves through jpop, rather than kpop. As you can see, all these girl groups just have JAPANESE VERSIONS of their hit singles, with no original japanese songs. that definitely says something, don’t you think? at least BB’s making the effort to really break into the market by having japanese songs, even if they ARE marketed as a kpop act. Other acts like ft island and cn blue also have actual albums, separate from their kpop ones.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 2:08 am
@iraaa: Those girl groups have just started out. We don’t know yet if later on they would still rely on their Korean hits or not. BB’s debut single was also the remade version of their Korean hit.
DBSK is the only one who debuted with a completely original Japanese song.
By: Lee on September 4, 2010
at 2:36 am
@lee
true, but let me clarify. what i meant was actually aimed at the present situation. the girl groups are currently using their previous hit singles.
then again, in the case of 4minute: they didn’t quite succeed with the japanese version of muzik, so now they’re promoting with the japanese version of i my me mine.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 3:58 am
@iraa i can see your point, because most of the girl group debut with their Jap ver. of their hit song i guess because of their aim is for the japanese that interested/knew bout them/hallyu wave.
But still, why?????? why??? TVXQ are huge so are BoA in Japan but Korean barely knew about that. BoA’s album sold around 1M but i dont think korean even knew about that.=_____=
I wonder how long will their able to survive, Japan music industry is diff than Korean. and what will happen when the japanese are sick of Kpop idol debuting n their country. this is gonna be interesting.
By: samohty on September 4, 2010
at 12:45 pm
finally someone came out and STATE it out clearly
*happy Happy*
By: Michelle on September 3, 2010
at 8:11 pm
ya,finally 0_0
Korean Media are blind,seriously—
By: Sin on September 3, 2010
at 8:17 pm
Yay! =)
Well over all, all thanks to TVXQ i discovered Kpop & Jpop. lol
By: krackit on September 3, 2010
at 8:12 pm
Finally someone said the true!!
I totally agree! ù.ù
By: Vavole on September 3, 2010
at 8:21 pm
can’t agree more
so proud of the boys.. their hardwork should be credited~
By: orenji bow on September 3, 2010
at 8:24 pm
As always, it’s the Japanese media who recognize
DBSK’s achievements. The Korean Media needs to read this and open its eyes -___-
By: Shuumi on September 3, 2010
at 8:35 pm
waahhh.. even ORICON acknowledged it!! what can i say?!!:) so proud of our boys!<3
By: erica on September 3, 2010
at 8:38 pm
I so couldn’t agree more on this,..it is so true!
I mean the Kpop groups won’t enter the oricon charts that easy if it wasn’t for THSK,..
they’re so popular there,..
this is why I am so proud to be TVXQ’s fan,,..
By: catyeo8 on September 3, 2010
at 8:50 pm
that’s our tvxq!
now all that needs to happen is for allkpop (or any other kpop blog out there) to post this. no offense to the other kpop acts that debuted in japan but it pisses me off when the fans say that their group can be bigger and more popular than tohoshinki in japan. (of course we shouldn’t rule out that possibility but still)
as if!
By: skye on September 3, 2010
at 8:50 pm
Should we tip Allkpop about this?
Though I think it’ll cause great fan war as fans of other groups will defend their idols & ignoring the truth. This is gonna be fun lol~
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 9:12 pm
i’m sure someone tipped them already but knowing allkpop, it might take them ten years before they post this. on second thought, they do love creating fan wars there. they refuse to post news on the boys latest concerts/pv’s but if an article can create war, they post it immediately.
By: skye on September 3, 2010
at 9:18 pm
Yeah, I think if we tip this news, AKP will post it up in a split second lol~ fan war = more views & replies = more money
I’m so pissed off at AKP T__T Yesterday I tipped TWICE the news about Junsu’s concert tickets got sold out, yet there’s still no sight on AKP >:(
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 9:22 pm
oh yeah… they didn’t post the news. they should have!
they only like negative news about our boys there so sometimes i wonder why i even bother. i guess i still frequent the site just to wait for tvxq news especially the good ones. i feel so proud, it’s almost like i’m boasting to other fans about our dong bang boys. lol ^^
By: skye on September 3, 2010
at 9:36 pm
There was an article about “BB isn’t an idol group”. In the end, this article mentioned about DBSK, but AKP just omitted their part T_T
By: L-P on September 3, 2010
at 10:12 pm
i actually started hating allkpop!till last february i couldn’t even point where korea was then when i was reading some good fanfics i got to know suju and dbsk and fell for Tohoshinki in the span of a minute^^,but the point is i noteced that the guys/girls on akp are very biased they write about what they want and they make it sound as they like they mainlly love hip hop and new sound which is totally cool but if u proclame ur self as portal to know everything and more about kpop i’d like to know more than about how jay park is cool or about how bigbang and 2ne1 are going to break Tohoshinki recors in Japan and over Asia,they still haven’t done it so shut the fuck up!the other day there was an article there saying that 2ne1 are going to be the next TVXQ and how these girls were fresh and talented…come on please!…as much as i like 2ne1 i would never go and say that they are talented,talent is when u can compose-write lyrics and ur vocal range is amazing those girl rock it yeah but their style is copied from BEG and Chakra, their songs are all produced written and composed by either Teddy or GD where is the talent in that?their vocal range is that of any idol group nothing special how they could even dream to be the next TVXQ??!!??so yeah i think that AKP is YG biased they are always running positive articles about YG artists about how those artist are fresh and new….didn’t know that conforming one self to western likness will mean that am fresh and ground breaking!!
By: sarahjolie on September 4, 2010
at 6:51 am
It always make me wonder why they didn’t want to report good news about our boys. I mean WHY? :<
By: yjcms on September 3, 2010
at 11:22 pm
THANK YOU ORICON. (:
It always bugs me whenever some fans of other groups completely disregard TVXQ’s role in the Japanese industry. The years they spent there suffering and trying their hardest shouldn’t be forgotten just because they’re finally big in Japan now or they’re on suspension.
What a wonderful way to start my morning (:
By: Angelis on September 3, 2010
at 8:52 pm
of cos!!!!
By: tomajaelover on September 3, 2010
at 8:56 pm
*sigh*
and the pioneer is suspended their activity now, ironical much!! how I wish I can see the boys greeting their hobae/junior when they came to Jap, as 5 as Tohoshinki. If I can turn back the time
*sorry getting emo here*
By: TheJunJjang on September 3, 2010
at 8:58 pm
darling junjjang..don’t be emo honey..we need your cute cheerfulness!
c’mon babe, the gods are still there, they just don’t visit the earth that often (because that’s what gods do, they stay in heaven most of the time. only mortals roam the earth and talkshows ;D).
the last time they visited didn’t we get orange and red oceans that these wannabe gods haven’t managed to do at all yet?
All hail the gods!
By: Orenji Junsu on September 3, 2010
at 10:41 pm
“the last time they visited didn’t we get orange and red oceans that these wannabe gods haven’t managed to do at all yet?”
what a sweet words u put there!! anw thank you orenji, for making me smile ^_^ oh almost forgot my answer is No…yet
and YESSSS all hail to the gods!! \(^o^)/
By: TheJunJjang on September 3, 2010
at 11:40 pm
you’re welcome sweetie ^^
happy that you are not emo anymore XD
By: Orenji Junsu on September 4, 2010
at 12:17 am
actually I’m still emo hahaha ^^a, something like this cant be erase that easily…
but thanks to you n ur magic words, it lil bit disappear
By: TheJunJjang on September 4, 2010
at 12:29 am
Tohoshinki didnt even have the chance to enjoy their popularity when they FINALLY have their big break last year after years of hard work.
And now all the kpop groups are flocking to Japan riding on their hard earned fame.
When will the kings return……..:(
DBSK/THSK/TVXQ COME BACK!!!!
By: jinny on September 3, 2010
at 9:00 pm
Exactly ‘riding on their hard earned fame’ and to think that some of those kpop artists don’t think that their success in Japan has anything to do with with TVXQ is just dillusional. I genuinely don’t think that any other kpop artist at that time could’ve broken into the jpop scene and captivated the hearts of the japanese as well as THSK.
For thejunjjang to say their pioneers couldn’t be more correct, thank you to Oricon for saying it as it is! (Unlike AKP)
By: dbskibunny on September 4, 2010
at 7:43 pm
OF COURSE!!!
*happy*proud*tears*happy*proud*
even JAPANESE media knows how to THANKS or RESPECT the boys, but yet i dont think Korean media n most of groups that debuted in Japan paid a bit respect for Tohoshinki. thats really pissed me off.
By: mei.hua on September 3, 2010
at 9:10 pm
now thats what i call THE TRUTH!!!!!!
face it new comers!!!!!! xP
By: jackerpie on September 3, 2010
at 9:22 pm
Thanks, Oricon! Japanese media is very supportive as always
If only Korea could see this… Anyways, I’m so proud of our boys! Nowadays it seems so easy for k-pop groups to debut in Japan! But I doubt many of these k-pop idols would have the perseverance to become successful starting from the bottom like our boys did.
By: an on September 3, 2010
at 9:40 pm
Omg, and in this mag I red in my country, they say that big bang is the only true grp who mde it in japan. I wanted to slap the writer…… our boys mde them fmous in the first place…..
By: yunniellove on September 3, 2010
at 9:50 pm
let me help you slap this writer!
By: T on September 3, 2010
at 9:58 pm
I’ll help you kick that writer’s butt then >:(
To be honest, BB has not made it in Japan yet. They haven’t got any #1 on Oricon. And I think their popularity is just around the same as KARA. BB’s latest single “Beautiful Hangover” sold around 25K in the first week, while KARA’s debut single “Mister” sold around 29K.
I seriously think media exaggerated BB’s “success” in Japan A LOT =.=. Same goes to other Korean groups.
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 10:11 pm
@Lee
“I seriously think media exaggerated BB’s “success” in Japan A LOT =.=. Same goes to other Korean groups”
I couldn’t agree more! Just look at AKP! They talk as if BB is already on the same level as TOHOSHINKI and some people actually believe that! LOL
My cousin who likes BB more than TOHOSHINKI has finally realized that our boys are famous in Japan. Her friend went to Japan last year and when she came back she knew all the lyrics of TOHO’s songs!
By: toho on September 3, 2010
at 10:39 pm
totally agree. i hate how fans can be so bias and think just becuz they sold around 30k in the debut they succeeded already hah. thier good start is thanks for thsk hard work.
By: lily on September 4, 2010
at 12:03 am
Ohoh in teenage magazine? I was about to rip the magazine apart when I read that! Haha and I hadn’t even bought it-.- but yeah the media seriously overlooks their achievements and I’m glad that our boys rode out through the hardships. Even if people don’t see it, we do and that’s enough I guess..
By: Stephanie on September 3, 2010
at 11:02 pm
PROUD OF OUR BOYS
proud and sad in the same time, proud cause their hardwork is recognized by japan entertaiment^^ *where r u k-media -_-*
sad cause now they have to suspended…i hope fans from other newgroup read this news so that they know that tohoshinki is BIG cause sometimes they tend to underestimate our boys.
anyway, TVXQ jjang
By: hamaji on September 3, 2010
at 9:53 pm
and also, in the past there werent many Japanese fancams in concerts and airpot but now it seems that the boys brought the culture over as well!
Lastly, wonder if anyone shares my feelings?
) i get a little pissed when I see grps such as Big Bang or Kara recently on big shows such as when BB won MTV/NTV sth award or Kara on Shakeburi… the boys worked soo hard for so many years before they could be invited to these shows
sometimes (i know its bad
and these new groups, who sometimes can barely speak Japanese manage to get onto these shows effortlessly!
(AND esp when Allkpop always always makes a big deal out of this but NOT when dbsk were on those shows)
By: pinkwings on September 3, 2010
at 10:04 pm
I share the same feelings with you and I’ve used to it. All of them can ignore how awesome our boys are…as long as we acknowledge them,it’ss more than enough.
Now getting big in japan is not much a big deal…since kpop wave is everywhere, it’s no suprise that japan is affected too.
But our boys are diff, they are the first and they are the WHY…so well, get popular all u wan, but our boys are the one that will be remembered <3
They hv loyal fans and their effects in japan is diff! Toho-shinking =D
By: Sin on September 3, 2010
at 10:20 pm
and I imagine SM town in tokyo will FULL of red glowstick!
HA! let them know who is the KING!!
By: yuka sato on September 4, 2010
at 8:34 am
Haha!! Agree with Yuka Sato!! SM Town should held in Tokyo! Totally RED!
DBSK will be the only one to be remembered and listed in the history of Japan music industry. FOREVER. Japanese are wise and more clever in the way of thinking, we’ll wait and see who will stay and last in the end.
By: cheeyanne on September 4, 2010
at 7:44 pm
I do share your sentiments. Which is why I very much question how long the fad of this so called Neo Hallyu will last in Japan. Now it looks like many are really curious about Kpop acts but after the curiosity subsides, what next? And I think Jpop is quite accustomed to the high standard of performance by the THSK boys.
By: Orenji Junsu on September 3, 2010
at 10:22 pm
But in regards to the Toho boys, as you point out there about the orange ocean in A-Nation, they do have a pretty solid fan base which these groups don’t have (yet). And that fan base is important to sustain whether they will be there to stay or to be forgotten once Jpop has enough of them.
By: Orenji Junsu on September 3, 2010
at 10:25 pm
Quotes from a SYC reader:
“A success that comes after hard works and a lot of failures will stay longer than the instant one.”
I think this sentence is so right. Like you, I’m also wondering how long this Hallyu will last? Once all these hype about Kpop die, I think all those Kpop groups who got popular instantly after debut in Japan will not stay in Japanese’s hearts & music history for long. But our boys will. Because our boys didn’t ride the Hallyu wave from the very start, and because our boys was the ones who MADE history.
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 10:33 pm
my exact sentiment. thsk broke thru the jpop barriers and stimulated the kpop culture in japan. thier fans are getting curious of kpop groups like the article said. the fans miss them so they are gettin to know other groups. kpop may be different from jpop but once they get know kpop im sure its just gonna be another trend. the kpop music overall is too similar in sound n concept. im also interested in how long these hallu star will last.
By: lily on September 4, 2010
at 12:14 am
it’s cause our boys’ appearances & promos in japan were halted by a certain entertainment company since their debut till early 2009… non of the kpop newbies in japan experience the same thing our boys had to gone through…
that’s why i respected our boys so much… their hard-work, their perseverance to succeed in japan is very admirable. the start at the very bottom & steadily climb the ladder of success. the kpop newbies that debut in japan had it very EASY i must say… no obstacles whatsoever coz our boys & Boa really did pave the way.
i’m very thankful that japan loves our gods so much ^^ the recognition is looooove~~~
By: jejungie on September 3, 2010
at 10:24 pm
I feel the same way in everything you said! Maybe it’s wrong but I don’t care… I started watching Kara in that program but I couldn’t finish it. I actually have nothing against them, but they sounded too artificial imo. I also realized how humble our boys were in all the programs they went to.
By: T on September 3, 2010
at 10:24 pm
I feel the same way too.
Actually I do like Big Bang more than all these new bands that are coming out. But I just, I’m sorry, can’t stand when yeah they started attending shows and all when our boys have to work for years, like you say, get invited to all these shows. And no offence SNSD, I don’t dislike them, but they started debuting and are so welcome. They have this pretty showcase, fans welcoming them in airport. and yeah, all this akp writer writing how they are so famous ALRDY.
and I suddenly rmb akp doesnt do that for our boys.
I hate them -.-
By: yjcms on September 3, 2010
at 11:38 pm
oh I agree with you. I do feel the same way too..
sometimes it pisses me off with those news of the other groups while our boys are rarely getting any.. *sighs*
WHY ? WHY?!
dbsk is way more than them in my heart and always will..
By: ohanao on September 4, 2010
at 2:22 am
Totally and wholeheartedly agree with you!!!
Everytime I read in AKP about BB appears on this shows or KARA appear on that show, it really pisses me off!!!
AKP has never and ever mentioned about TVXQ appears on any shows!!! All writers are biased, which I think is really bad because thousand of people read their news and can get misled. And that is considered unethical for journalists.
I used to think that although other people don’t recognize or appreciate TVXQ’s success, it’s all right because there are Cassiopeias, Bigeast and i-Cassies that cherish the boys’ triumph and glory. However, I have to say that these days I barely put up with it. TVXQ is neglected too much in Korean entertainment industry.
Maybe it’s time for us write an open letter to AKP asking WHY they hate our boys so much LOL
By: whAnjAi on September 4, 2010
at 4:38 am
THIS IS THE TRUTH.
By: ohhho on September 3, 2010
at 10:40 pm
everyone already said all that i’m thinking. anyone who don’t know much about tohoshinki and j-pop will say that the other k-group are pretty amazing that they can gain alot of attention in their debut. but who can make it possible? our boys of course. I agree with orenji junsu who said that j-pop is more mature than k-pop, i’m k-pop lover but recently i’m getting tired of it. each of j-pop singer has their trademark, uniqueness, consequence, that make j-pop more vary. k-pop only follow the wave with catchy song and dance plus autotune. it’s tiring. I only stick to some k-pop ballad singer. For idol? i’ll probably think more.
By: ida on September 3, 2010
at 10:45 pm
i agree. k-pop is cool and fun but it’s getting way too repetitive. it’s lost originality and freshness. now even the path those groups take are the same: debut in korea -> become a little successful there -> debut in japan.
By: toho on September 3, 2010
at 11:12 pm
wow…you took the words out of my mouth
really, i love k-pop, but all the recent acts…i realy cant stomach at all, so im only sticking to the ballad singers
j-pop might or might not be your cup of tea, but everyone has to admit that each of the artist is so unique ~ individuality… thats the keyword ~ just like out boys ^.^
By: dandelion164 on September 3, 2010
at 11:14 pm
Agree with u. I stay away from Kpop esp idols group, like what u said is boring all those idol groups come up with all those catchy song, dance and autotune. Its kinda repetitive. and boring.
Also KPOP also got to much drama, I always stay away from them most of the time.
By: jejungko on September 3, 2010
at 11:21 pm
…and that’s why japan has the 2nd biggest market in the world, there’s something for everyone and anyone, if you care enough to look =)
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 2:14 am
well said. the dramas, idols–i’m bored of them now,slowly. even though new groups make their debuts, the song, still the same (and the funniest thing, AKP still give good reviews even though you can just dump the song seconds after you finished hearing it, LOL, )
jpop, i learn to love it more. varies. not only the song, artist. but also the dramas. fun and it doesn’t drag ways more. BUT,I STILL LOVE SKKS
before i wonder with all these kpops getting bigger, will japan be the biggest market in asia. and now, i can say, now worries on that. jpop is all about BEING SPECIAL
By: hotaru on September 4, 2010
at 1:06 pm
100% right!!
no TVXQ….no other k-bands in japan right now:)
By: hyunjin9095 on September 3, 2010
at 10:50 pm
Winter Sonata has paved the way for Hallyu Wave while BoA, Se7en (before he decided to go to USA) and THSK made the road smoother for other groups.
It’s odd that I’ve started liking SNSD activities in Japan, somehow they’re not very appealing in Korea (same thing with DBSG and Supernova. I still prefer their Japanese songs than Korean ones).
Anyway, Big Bang appeals to different set of fans in Japan. Their music is popular in the clubs and they’re not considered a vocal group like DBSG. I think they’re doing alright in Japan without having to change their music identity too much.
By: trah on September 3, 2010
at 10:53 pm
I think as time goes by & all the hypes about Hallyu wave diminishes, people will only remember the “gate-openers”.
Like when talking about Hallyu drama in Japan, the first thing pops up is “Winter Sonata”.
When saying about successful Korean solo singer in Japan, BoA is the first one came to mind, even though her popularity has decreased.
History has proven itself with the two above cases. So I’m sure that later on, once this Hallyu wave has faded, when talking about Korean idol groups invading Japan, the name TOHOSHINKI will instantly pop up.
By: Lee on September 3, 2010
at 11:22 pm
Good point!
By: Orenji Junsu on September 4, 2010
at 12:19 am
so agree.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 2:16 am
That’s obvious. Yet I still don’t believe they will get half as popular. |: Will they?
By: Damekko on September 3, 2010
at 10:59 pm
NO. XD
By: T on September 3, 2010
at 11:14 pm
i wouldn’t say popular, but they’re definitely more visible now because of the whole kpop wave.
to the general japanese public while THSK may be recognisable individually, the kpop acts are kind of lumped together.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 2:19 am
Is SM banned about good news from DBSK in k-magazine?
Or are all of reporter in k-news too blind n deaf to face the truth about our boys good news?
Are they really want to make DBSK suspend for forever by write bad news about them?
If its really what they want i promise will send them to hell!!!
By: Dark angel on September 3, 2010
at 11:12 pm
I know this already and its sometimes annoying those other groups fans didn’t realize this or accept the FACT.
Coz I know some of Japanese fans, they like TVXQ first then starting to notice others Kpop artist. Geez…
And I love how Japanese media suport our boys so much not like Korea Media.
That’s why I prefer them in Japan. Love their Japanese releases more. =)
By: jejungko on September 3, 2010
at 11:13 pm
<3 the article.
and f*ck korean media for always ignoring our boys' credibility. =.=+
fad is meant to be over soon any way, only the real deal remains.
By: jlie on September 3, 2010
at 11:40 pm
Finally someone stand out and say the thruth that many people try to ignore it.
and it’s not just somebody but the ORICON people!
By: Amber on September 3, 2010
at 11:59 pm
Of course this comes from Japan.
After all, why would korean media say this? Why would they acknowledge the truth?
But I’m so not worried about this, other things are more important now.
All this popularity for korean girl groups and whatever other groups won’t last long. They’ll fade away soon.
And after let’s say, 20 years, they will only remember those who were first, those who opened the way, they’ll remember our boys, our DBSK (and BoA and Se7en of course).
I hate korean media right now.
By: cryss on September 4, 2010
at 12:05 am
for the girls group to really braek into the market they will need to stay japan laern the language culture and of course talent is most prominent as singers. all the emphasis on dance in kpop aint gonna help them lol. japan is were talent is look at first n foremost. n to really firmly established a fanbase will take years.
thats where these oncoming group will fail. new groups are constantly debuting in the kpop scene stick around for abit then go straght to japan. they dont even have a solid fanbase in korea yet how can they have one in japan?!
plus staying in japan too long will make them forgotten n decrese in popularity as idols are flooding the scene everyday. thier debut in japan wont be as flashy as japan market only promotes thier artiste n advertise them after becoming big on the oricon.
thats where thsk succeed. they worked hard between the two countries. had cassie as the biggest fanclub as base n work thier way up in japan. now thsk is a brand name that is use to promote other oncomin girl groups from korea. thanks for the credit oricon. kpop media take the hint.
By: lily on September 4, 2010
at 12:23 am
I think it depends on the management company. Avex tends to be cautious about investing in promotions for Korean groups, until they do well in Oricon.
But Universal has proven to be different. BB was heavily promoted right after debut. Same goes to KARA with all the images on billboards & high rating shows. SNSD even got a (paid-)article about them on ORICON website even long before debut.
By: Lee on September 4, 2010
at 12:31 am
Fad will always fade in time, all the blown-out-of-proportion hype in the world… Er… I mean in Korea will not help.
More than a decade ago there was a gigantic boom of visual rock, some of the rookie late comers even at times got more popular at one time than their more talented senpai who paved the way for them, making a previously obscure genre appreciated by the mass. So what? Years later when the hype died down only the greatest few got to be remembered, respected and still maintained a smaller but loyal fanbase.
I actually think some of the k-groups catching this newest k-pop wave created by THSK are quality artists who deserve spotlight too. As for those um, manufactured eyecandies with no depth and originality whatsoever… let them have their short-lasting moment of shine too
What’s important is for the 5 boys is for them to obtain true music-loving, loyal fans who will be with them through thick and thin, who will still be there to support them after all the hype has died down, for as long as they are still creating good, real music.
And from my observations, these boys do already have such loyal following esp in Japan. Hopefully this fanbase will further grow and improve in terms of quality (we do have lots of antis and fickle idol worshippers too).
By: Starfield on September 4, 2010
at 12:25 am
“What’s important is for the 5 boys is for them to obtain true music-loving, loyal fans who will be with them through thick and thin, who will still be there to support them after all the hype has died down, for as long as they are still creating good, real music.”
–> In the end, this is all that matters. A sustainable fandom that can only be created through dedication and commitment to music. This is when they become real artists.
By: Orenji Junsu on September 4, 2010
at 1:21 am
THIS IS REALLY TRUE!!
If you were to ask me, I would say that Tohoshinki is the main gate opener for all these Korean acts in the Japanese market because BoA was not recognized as a Korean artist rather she was considered as a Japanese. On the hand, Tohoshinki are the “hallyu stars in Korea who debuted in Japan 5 years ago and worked hard for the success they are having now.” Who wouldn’t be proud to be a TVXQ fan when everyone is admiring their dedication and sincerity?
But no matter how bitter I am with all the success that kpop artists are having now because I know TVXQ is a major contributor to their success, I just end up praying to God and leave everything to him and I also believe that as long as the boys keep on doing their best like they used to, their success will even be doubled like when you share your blessings to others.
Look! It’s been a year since their hiatus and there are so many things that happened: a lot of groups debuted, a lot of comebacks, a lot of fanwars, a lot claimed that they are number 1, a lot of success…
but as of today, at this time, after you read this news, have you realized who ruled everything after a year of hiatus? It’s still TVXQ!
*cries* this is why we must always pray and believe in the power of prayers. i guess i’m too emotional about this but with all the success TVXQ and members of TVXQ are achieving, it’s really overwhelming that it makes me cry. TT___TT
By: annnnnnnnnn on September 4, 2010
at 12:32 am
I love your comment ^^
By: an on September 4, 2010
at 1:22 am
Love you comment
I know how you feel, when I first read this I started to cry.
Too emotional? Maybe, I’m that way too.
But you know what? We have the right to be too emotional, we gained it.
After all that happened with our boys, we can’t be okay with it because our feelings for them are not shallow, we truly love them – so of course sometimes we get too emotional, too sensitive.
I sometimes wonder…if there was any other group on hiatus for a year what would it be like? I mean, would their fans still be there for them like we are?
By: cryss on September 4, 2010
at 3:34 am
GUYS!
AKP has reported about this news (surprisingly fast, considering the news about Junsu’s sold out concert has still not reported)
Link: http://www.allkpop.com/2010/09/tvxq-credited-with-success-of-k-pop-girl-groups-in-japan
Let’s stay still for the upcoming fan war lol~
By: Lee on September 4, 2010
at 12:41 am
it’s chaos there! some denying the facts some stating the truth and some just love to bashing..
i can’t go there. seriously i can’t! some ppl too dumb and denial
and some just jealous. pfft..
By: ilaloveyunho on September 4, 2010
at 2:26 am
You’re right – chaos is the right word to describe what’s going on there.
I don’t go anymore there too.
The denial I don’t mind, the stupid comments as well, I don’t care about them. But those who are bashing…those kind of commentes just get on my nerves.
Oh, and those who are jealous…they make me laugh and be more proud of our boys.
By: cryss on September 4, 2010
at 6:09 am
im sad coz such words i never heard coming from Korea.
Im happy because Japan always there, stating their acknowledgement about Tohoshinki again and again. Oricon stating it as if to remind and to make sure people remember. Oricon is like a parent that scold their child so that they remember.
Its always Japs media that saying how talented Tohoshinki members are when Korean media still calling DBSK idol this idol that.
How I wish I can scream as loud and powerful as I can to every ears how influential and importance DBSK are in Asian music industry.
By: tohoshikin on September 4, 2010
at 12:45 am
FINALLY. See even oricon acknowledges that without Dbsk other groups would not have been successful. It’s so obvious tha it’s a fact yet so many fans don’t wish to admit that and fail to respect all the hard work dbsk has invested into creating a path for other groups to piggyback on.
By: Minuet on September 4, 2010
at 12:51 am
That’s why Japan is on 2nd place in the world. They’re super intelligent. LOL XD.
By: astropteri on September 4, 2010
at 12:57 am
That’s obvious
By: natto on September 4, 2010
at 1:56 am
yes!! not just girl groups, others group also must credit TVXQ!!
i’ve read this one interview with one k-group who recently debut in japan.
they asked, what’s your planning to do after this?
and one of the members said, do a perfomance on Tokyo Dome
i was like WTH??? u just debut but already mentioned abt doing perfomance on Tokyo Dome?? geezz… >.<
By: ilaloveyunho on September 4, 2010
at 2:35 am
Well, I’m not so blind as to think that DBSK is to be credited for ALL the success that the girl groups are getting – I mean they DID work freaking hard as well – but yeah, I agree … DBSK (and BoA, Shinhwa, S.E.S, etc) DID contribute A LOT to the success of these girl groups …
I mean, if DBSK (and the other artists mentioned above) hadn’t gone through the years of suffering and learning the language, etc. the japanese public would NOT have been so accepting of the Korean groups entering the japanese market without being able to speak sufficient japanese …
I think DBSK created a lot of interest in Korean music because they’re so good … I think the some of the Japanese public kinda thought, ‘Hey, DBSK are really good … I wonder how the other Korean groups are’ …
But well, I’m glad Oricon recognised this and decided to publicise the fact (although, I don’t really like the way they made it seem as if the girl groups did no work at all for their successful Japanese debuts .. I think they should have gone into a bit more detail to avoid butthurt stans of the girl groups :/) ..
By: JaeLuver on September 4, 2010
at 2:54 am
O.O I wrote an essay AGAIN?
By: JaeLuver on September 4, 2010
at 2:54 am
i agree with you in that i don’t think DBSK is the reason for ALL their successes (that’s a bit unfair to the other groups, as they each do have their own appeal), but DBSK is definitely ONE of the main reasons of their success.
and your 2nd statement is true. DBSK earned the respect of the japanese industry (and people). i had an asian studies subject on japan, and it IS true that one of the criteria to be an artist is how japanese you are (and by that, i mean nationality-wise). DBSK (along with BoA) certainly helped broke barriers.
By: iraaa on September 4, 2010
at 3:34 am
im so glad dbsk get’s recognition from japan. when the hell is korean going to recognize dbsk? i dont know why some people on allkpop think dbsk shouldnt be recognize for this success of hallyu wave. seriously, even if you arent a dbsk fan you should have known that without the success of dbsk, no other group can break in japan that easily. im so happy for the boys
By: MinnieMin on September 4, 2010
at 4:06 am
One thing im sure of it , TVXQ is the one that will last , for live , life & till they want .
We r in vacation now , & still going strong , long life boys .
By: tama on September 4, 2010
at 4:24 am
happy…hehe but i miss them…
By: love0091 on September 4, 2010
at 4:33 am
You just wait till they come back!!
By: Damekko on September 4, 2010
at 5:08 am
hell yea!! our boys are the main reason why the other kpop groups have it so much easier than them now. they are not the SOLE reason, but they are the main reason.
anyway, i’ve been reading many comments from others that korean media doesn’t report on tvxq’s success. i just thought about this possibility: korean media has to follow the mentality of the kpop scene, fast debuts, fast fame and fast forgotten. how do i say this…it’s like the nature of kpop now is that it is so fleeting for many acts. new groups debut like mushrooms after the rain, and the hype they create gives them fame for just a short time. then, they die down and other new groups take over the 15minutes-of-fame limelight.
korean media is responding to this fleeting (albeit superficial and shallow) trend because they have to put out news that sell. so, they don’t bother mentioning old groups like DBSK, unless they have a comeback.
however, japanese music industry is indeed more mature, so the boys still get reported on even though they are not so active now, because over there in japan, fame comes slow but is not so fleeting.
that is my 2 cents worth. don’t know if i make sense or not, since it’s 7am and i’m still here reading news on the boys
By: sujudbskfan on September 4, 2010
at 6:06 am
We have been saying this for a long time, thanks mr. Editor.
By: alexandra on September 4, 2010
at 7:11 am
wow…so oricon does think so…..i agree with oricon!!!!!^^
thanks for sharing!
By: aislovesdbsk on September 4, 2010
at 9:42 am
*LOL*
Ironically, I am actually loving the effect of this article being posted on K-pop.
Look! No more JYJ vs Homin division at least for now, everyone has united behind the vindication that we as THSK/DBSK fans finally got from an editor of one of the most credible/influencial publication in the Japanese music industry.
Hahaha!
By: Starfield on September 4, 2010
at 10:03 am
Of course
By: Don on September 4, 2010
at 12:47 pm
That’s something true, it’s TVXQ bring me into K-pop, love oricon. TVXQ played a big role of influences…
And I really love that all fans united in here~ lol
agree with starfield*
By: cheeyanne on September 4, 2010
at 6:49 pm
the only reason that these girls got notice that much is thanks to our boys…
if people still think otherwise they are just in denial or completly stupid…
By: lily on September 4, 2010
at 6:56 pm
eat dat u tabloid inspired AKP!
By: duckysbunny on September 4, 2010
at 7:46 pm
duh ~ TVXQ opened the big door for other Kpop artists to enter Japan successfully
hehehehe
By: Leyunism on September 5, 2010
at 1:21 am
it was better they said that all these korean girl groups must be thanx to tvxq because those boys open the way to enter easily to japan’s market….
i just read in aramatheydidn’t that said japan must be thankfull to korea’s entertainment because they save jap’s boring entertainment….i know i’m not finished read that articel because that just a nonsense article……
but lately i think, why people in japan so much easily right now getting like to korean music? why they buy some not worthy enough group’s album??? and why they so easily admires new group??? are they really boring with their music entertainment which never boring by international?? that’s why their market is still big in this world compare to korean market….I’m surprise because those bunch of will “forgetting idols” can sold so much copies in japan,
i watch akb48 performance and pv…some of them ever in anan magazine too, those girls are equal with korean girls’s group, sell some fanservices, just using bra while singing, kissing between them and they sold 700 copy two times in number one oricon charts,(make tsunku who have “morning musume girl” dizzy that he ever said that he would make a new girl group with 48 members…so ridicoulous but what market’s need and demand is the main subject/the most important thing, the market boring with morning musume, and the market want some girls who kiss each other or wearing just bra or maybe nothing….?)
no wonder for me group like snsd, kara, and so on*too tired to typed it* will make a big step in there….because i must admit that surgery and silicon things make them good ^_^
*don’t mad at me*
they can sing but just a little compare to akb48….
this is what make me realize that japan’s market will change….
things that make me worry now, is japan’s people…will they loyal forever to tvxq??? because this is the only place that tvxq can be treat like a human and as artist…..and tvxq the only one from korea that make at least me, IF YOU TRY HARDER, IF YOU WORK SO MUCH, YOU CAN BE SO SUCCESFULL, HOW DIFFICULT the way IS,
for another boy/girl group, I’m not against your idols, but that’s never a fact that everyone praise their voices as a singer like what tvxq did….they (these girl/boys group from korea)are a singer so they must be sing, if they can’t sing, just can dance, then they musn’t be called a singer!
so…i just let it be now and give all to time, let’s see what will hapen 3 years later, because i know that girls or boys will be famous in one or two years from now.,
oh last, a friend of mine said that why trash exist in this world, and “the good things” always seem barely because people need “something” some definision what good thing is….so, when they look the good things and see the trash/bad things, don’t they turn to good things????
so people always choose the good things in the end….
so don’t get mad again if some crap like ALLKPOP say unimportant thing and forgot our boys, they just made tvxq more famous in their own way, let them say anything, people will compare, and not everyone in this world idiot or something…let them be, what they did just make me laugh, and make me know they know nothing about music
^___________^
By: wood on September 5, 2010
at 11:46 am
sorry for the long essay….*bow*
By: wood on September 5, 2010
at 11:47 am
TRUE THAT!!! >D
By: JunKo on September 6, 2010
at 3:44 pm