Posted by: sharingyoochun | July 30, 2010

[Vid + Trans] 100723 KBS joy – Illegal TVXQ Fan

Edited with translation.

Here is a brief translation of the video…

First of all, the girl in white is said to be a new sasaeng, I think she’s the reporter. Let’s call the short haired girl, girl A, the long haired girl, girl B, and the newbie (reporter?), girl C. Please note that there are a lot of cuts in the documentary and we also hear the voices of the guests who are commenting at the same time.

@ 00:44
They are at KBS Music Bank recording and girl C asked the girls to tell her what she should know and do (about the sasaeng actions).

Cut – Girl B: Bodyguards? Those guys don’t even go to the bathrooms.”

Cut – Girl A says that once Yoochun took her memory card and dropped it in the coffee.

Caption: They accept and understand their oppa tough action.

Then girl B explained that somedays, he’s Angel Yoochun, and the other days, he’s Evil Yoochun.

@01:42
Girl A received a text about Yunho who’s in the practice room. Girl C asked if they can go there now but somehow, they don’t.

@02:15
They passed by Yoochun’s house, we see the whole family members’ cars, girl A said when YC was in the mood, he took his dog Harang for a walk. Since bodygard said that Yoochun left this morning, Girl B thought they rather went to see Jaejoong.

@ 03:05
They explained the system of the taxis: they are drivers who allow their services to the sasaeng, they called them sasaeng-taxis, and that’s the 1st car they saw when arrived at destination.

That’s where they met their unnie who was waiting for JJ. Girl A/B (?) asked her if Jaejoong got upset again, but she said no, she got a problem with the security guy (not sure because of the video cut).

When they were in the car, the talk dealt with Jaejoong being at SS501 Kim HyunJoong parents’ house. Then they stopped trying to meet him.

@04:21
Girl A read Yoochun and Yunho daily life, confirmed that YC backpacked his stuff and left for JeonJu (in Jeolla, South of Seoul) and YH was at movies. The girl on phone was stalking to YH and CM dorm (there’s another team over there).

@04:47
They were in front of Junsu’s house. Girl B called a sasaeng-taxi (sataex) telling him that she had to go to see Yunho, and she tried to get news about Junsu, but she got nothing from him. (that’s part is hilarious)

@05:50
The girls finally got some news from the ‘sataex’, Yunho was at a café. They drove over there, found him and took their pics until he left in his car.


video credit: HoLoveMin
translation credits: kenoa@sharingyoochun
shared by: sharingyoochun.net


Responses

  1. Subs please!!!

  2. yes pls… i watched it.. but cant understand… :(

  3. i don’t understand. they stalk tvxq? know where they are? and time they come out? their sched? huh?

    but their good.

  4. This is actually extremely to be completely honest.

  5. they are Sasaeng fans, stalker, who follow their idol 24/7,this vid explain where u can find our boys when they are @ seoul, where they live, this is CREEPY, & i don’t get it why this kind of stuff was aired on TV?!

    i just found the word Sasaeng when canvassed comments for this vid on YT, and when i tried to search related topic by goggle all i could find was 2PM ex-sasaeng fans account,it gave me HORROR, apart from the validity ofthose account.

    • that’s what i’m scared
      it’s horrible when fans feel betrayed, they can do anything to destroy their idols lifes
      i really think our boys have the most stalkers, see how much stalking pics they have
      and i think DBSK secret are much bigger than 2PM, what if those things are revealed?
      you know, just for example, there are so many secret box about YJ, and so many things are hidden inside, who know what it could be

      • our boys is always honest about their emotion, i don;t think there is some bad new will be release at least not like 2PM
        moreover the most important factor is that how much we trust our boy, the controversy is never ended for the celebrities like our boys

      • YEP THE YUNJAE BOX…its really not for publics eyes…etc.ur so ryt.

      • ehh im darn curious about this yunjae secret box. can some tell me mora bout it yunjae <3

      • Secret… box…?

      • you dont know that?
        well, i’ll try to explain
        you cant really find sth “secret” abt YJ in ameblo,web, blog,.. everything shown in public, rumor is just rumor
        abt those box, they have pp, “source inside” in SM, sometime family members or the boys’s friends can give them some infos,
        you have to really really active or have some one can present you to others mem
        for the box in Korea, even you’re Korean it’s still very hard to get infos in this, if you are international fan, you have no chance
        and the Japanese box, they’re even more quiet
        i heard that they dont just have infos but images, some kind of proofs,..
        i heard more and more abt this from my unnies, they are thier time long time ago and very active
        6 years are a long time, there are things hidden to protect the boys

      • they are their fans long time ago*

        sorry wrong typing

      • Yunjae secret box? wooooo thatz new…i never heard of it before in my life! are they FBI or something?

      • I dont think about YJ is real or box or whatever…XD

        but huu this is creepy as hell D:

        and yay…they dont follow changmin XDDD why im not surprise?

      • yeah, lol, whatever, believe or not it ‘s up to u
        but i just find it weird, i thought everyone know it

      • totally agree =T i mean why is this on TV to begin with? im disapointed in KBA bigtime
        Sasengs are so scary, Korea needs to step up and put a stop to these kinda things, in hollywood we got the paparatzi here its scaries! cause the r fans…=T

        Just wanna say be careful guys, and dont believe everything u hear

      • ahh so this secret box is like a yunjae stash XD lol

    • I just read it and OMGGG it creeps the hell out of me. What if one day they decide to release something like that on DBSK? shit

    • I just hope that those Sasaengs are loyal cassies who just follow them around, not those creepy obsessed agressive crazy stalkers…. who would do anything to ruin their image/life when they want to…

      • Honey, those girls are not welcomed in the fans community. Sasaeng means illegitimate (and somehow ‘bastard’), so they are not considered as fans.
        Stalking that way someone in their daily life is not normal. Those people have a lot of connexion, you can hear one talking with a guy when they are waiting at Junsu house. The probably pay people who are members “friends” and staff to get information.

        Seriously once you follow someone that way, you think he owns you, and you decide of his life. They are a lot of secret pics, and I’m sure that they used them to pressure the boys with it.

        Moreover, some of them sell the pics they take in photobooks support. Making money using someone you like? No way, this is business for some of them.

        South Korea needs law about the stalking issue. That’s the real problem.

      • @kenoa:

        that’s interesting…

        i wonder how cassiopeia will react towards these 3 girls? I wonder why they didn’t bother to conceal their faces.

      • thats scary. i thought they were cursing since there was so many beeps in the editing lol. well those gals are certaintly brave to do things like that. i really thought yun look pissed off when he headed out the restuarant.

      • @la
        I think that those who are really powerful are those girls, the sasaeng.
        I remember once Yoochun told them something like that they give a bad name to Cassiopeia and that they aren’t fans. XD And Yunho used to not allow people to film him, but that was ‘ok’ to follow him. Now both don’t say a word anymore T_T I’m sure that if one of them is ‘hurt’ by members or fans, they can bite back.

      • kenoa@

        yeah its true what u say…cause someone tells me that she pay a lot of money to changmin stalkers and those stalkers even meet changmin close friend…the worst thing is that those friends colaborate to stalk him -___-

      • oh my!
        i just knew it now that sasaeng are that creepy…

        what’s astonishing more is about Yunjae Box or whatever they call it…

        thx for sharing unnie…
        I don’t want bad things occurred to our boys…

      • @kenoa
        just to clarify ‘sasang’ used in this context doesn’t mean
        illegitimate – it comes from ‘sasanghwal’ which means private life
        it’s just shorten form like most of the words used online thesedays

  6. OMG… look at the crowd of fangirls following Yunho. @__@ And that was like late at night… Do they freakin follow him 24/7 or something??? o.O

  7. This is kinda… Cool.
    Yunho’s so tall and there’s a string of women following him everywhere. So this is their life in Korea? I never knew :o !

    • I’m sure wether having people following you wherever you go 24h/24 7days/7 can be considered as “cool”…

      Seriously, I pity them…

      • *not sure

        typo…

    • It doesnt sounds cool to me :|

      • ofcourse ITS NOT!

    • It is not cool…. Once they even followed them to men’s restroom…

    • lol chill people. I do mean that I’m amazed by their way of getting connections. Don’t need to get too work up ladies.

  8. i just find this ridiculous. i mean come on, they need their own personal time too !!

  9. subs pls, anybody,pls.pls.pls :-( i’m at lost here… these girls are freaking me out…it’s late already & they’re still stalking the boys…oh my…

  10. Some fans just need to get a life really~

  11. Watching the last part where Yunho was stalked by not 1 or 2 but a group of fans is a bit…. scary. Waiting for them at companies, tv stations and airports is a lot different from stalking them 24/7. Seriously I will be pissed if I were them.

  12. celebrities also needs privacy..

  13. we cant judge them. they do all the dirty work for us..we enjoy what they provide..though its not right..so i wont judge : )

    • You mean fancam and stalker pics ?

      Even if I watch some fancams, I would rather prefer not having any and know that the boys have some privacy and moment when they can be alone

    • I agree with you. As creepy as it may look, we shouldn’t judge them=D
      Just one wish that they don’t turn against TVXQ and release their secrets one day when they are not satisfied with the boys anymore or sth. Seeing what happened with 2PM is very sad TT—TT

      • what happened with 2PM was very disappointing. but for these Sasaeng, they are still Cassies right? or so i hope. So i would like to think that no matter what, Cassies will never betray our boys.

      • what happened with 2 pm?
        i’m not too familiar with them and i wasn’t into kpop when jaebeom left 2pm so i don’t know much

      • When Jay left and it was confirmed that he will definitely not coming back, a lot of 2pm fan went crazy and revealed private embarrassing stuffs and pics about the other members, and became hard antis…

        That’s really creepy

    • enjoy what they provide?
      Im going to be honest, its fine to see some stalker pics but to actually know they’re stalking them 24/7? I find myself exiting the tumbler reporting some of the boys whereabout in these past couple of days. It doesnt work on me~
      There’s a thing called ‘RESPECT’ esp. for their privacy and private lives.

    • You speak the truth.

  14. some part of me say….wah!!!! i admire them
    they willing to follow their idol anywhere everytime
    give us news, pic etc
    i dont think i can do just like them….they really love TVXQ

    but, other part of me think that this is too……
    even i dont understand anything about the vid
    but this is scary…really
    they must really know everything right????

    it remind me of changmin recent interview when he say that he want to shopping with peace, so he doesnt revealed what place he actually go to

    p/s= the ultimate ninja is CHANGMIN….they didnt know where is him right

  15. well.. as much as i think sasaeng fans are creepy, i gotta thank them for providing us with stalker pics/fancams~ as long as they don’t go overboard.

  16. o.o… omo……stalkers are scary…….

    ……….sub? ^^;; lol

  17. They are called Sasaeng fans?

    Omo in my opinion it’s creepy, to have a person following you 24/7….. It’s just plain CREEPY!

    Respect their privacy please.
    Although i love them i don’t go stalking them 24/7, i think to those sasaengs it’s already a obsession..

  18. i’m not korean nor do i live in korea. i was dragged to kpop by our boys. i knew there are stalkers, but just by now, i understand how it works & i never thought they could do to that extent. somehow, it made me wondering, how IDOL Culture have affected Korean youngster, this culture also turned some teens to professional spy o_O. I don’t know whether it is “health”..

    aish.. an essay embrio! sympton of taking major in psychology.
    Just ignore me.

    • IKR! That was my exact thinking when I got to know the existence of sasaeng fans. Their activities are definitely not healthy to their psych, imagine all the sorts of disorders they might be hiding, and it’s quite painful to think that such young people with possibly bright futures are suffering like that for their “passion” (misguided or not).

      Of course, im generalising but I was just musing about this months ago. So you’re not weird! (I’m intending to major in psych hehe)

  19. I was practically frowning through the whole video. Maybe it was bcos i didnt understand the language? But it freaks me out with all the -I-know-where-he-live, where-he-eat and stuffs. Idk why i know this is something which is happening all the time but I’m worry :/

    These fans worked like they are some freaky professionals :/

  20. It’s creepy that they know everything about oppa.

    Actually, i wouldnt mind if they just stalk in a far distance but this is quite too much to follow maniacally closely to them.

    In that coffee shop, if they just sat still and watched, that would be perfectly acceptable ==”

    Please let oppa get some air.

  21. hmmm. they dont have a life, do they?

    I dont feel good about this at all. I know you love DBSK so much, but it does not entitle you to encroach their private life. Private is private for a reason, dont you get it?

    Its scary and suffocating in the same time.

  22. This is so freaking out ! Don’t they have a life ?! Why keeping to follow the boys everywhere ?! Even if they love them, it’s not a way to behave ! That just lead them to feel uncomfortable and awkward…
    I pity those girls, really. It’s a thing to bump into them randomly or see them in airports, but it’s another to pass your life to track them and know every single place where they are.

    I hope it won’t degenerate into worse things later. Because for now, the boys are nice to let them do.

  23. imagine trying to spend time with ur loved ones, like your parents or siblings, or having an emotional breakdown-u turn around and there r strangers u have never seen in ur life surrounding you–how does that feel?

    like someone said above, i dont mind airport pics.

    example-i dont want to know what Yun and his sis or dad had for lunch when they just want to spend private family time together, unless he said so himself in an interview, or what time Chun leaves his house to walk his dog and what time of the nite he returns—creepy

    we adore them and r curious about them, but do we really not care how they feel about these? esp after seeing this?

    Remember JJ at the convenient store?

    • yup. fresh in mind!

      he was a bit pissed off, and trying to maintain cool about it.

      i just hope these hardcores really leaving them some time alone. as much as i wanna know what they are up to, i dont really find it fun enough to see stalker pics taking pics of their whereabouts in their own home and fave hangouts.

      • o_____o can you tell me about that incident ?
        i dont know & i wanna ):

      • @Evelynn: fangirls followed Jae ridiculously close in a convenient stores. Jae must felt extremely pissed that day, because he turned around and asked whether the girls would follow even if he was buying “secret items”, and that he was not some weird animals at the zoo. I’m not sure abt what he meant by “secret” though :”) But yeah, they didn’t leave him any privacy. I felt really sad seeing our JJ like that. It’s just exactly as he said – as if those girls were curious about some strange species at the zoo :<

      • oops, I mean “store” :”) this incident only happened once, or more precisely, it was filmed only once.

      • @ zung

        ): !!!
        it hurts me hearing that

        i mean..
        i know that if i had the chance to see the boys upclose id spazz
        & go crazy & follow them a bit

        but then hearing that they cant even buy something without the fan hovering over them is just ridiculous.
        im sure the sasaengs wouldnt like being watched so why arent they leaving the boys alone

      • @Evelynn_: yeah, you can’t even breathe with those stalkers follow you every step. JJ tends to keep a cold and expressionless face in public. I bet that day he reached his limit :(

    • “….having an emotional breakdown-u turn around and there r strangers u have never seen in ur life surrounding you–how does that feel?”

      -> ohhh..u remind me Jae’s talk on ‘My Favorite unseen cut’[can't find the vid anymore]
      once he decide to take a walk at Han River when he was in depression and NEED TO CRY OUT EMOTIONALY..
      BUT.. suddenly
      some ppl starting to approach him..
      asking for authograph..even taking his pic..
      Jae nicely reject them and walk back home..
      Unfortunately..these ppl still follow him
      make him feel uneasy :(

      seriously, i feel sorry for them

      • ikr. i also remember a pic of JJ hugging a friend, the pic wasnt clear(night time maybe?), and that was when the lawsuit was really fresh and hot. I remember feeling like i was standing outside his window in his house peeking in when i saw that.

        after being a fan of these boys for a while u start seeing them as part of ur family(maybe just me lol), for me more like brothers really and u feel like protecting them(the reason i think cassies are the best fans in the world.). seeing this really got me worried. JJ always talks about going out and drinking, i also think that even though he is always looking for attention(cam whoring? lol), i think he will be the one will not deal well if a *negative* image of him is seen in public.

        like i said, dont get me wrong as a fan we read gossip about them and r curious about their lives too, i guess i am lil older now and a lil empathetic to their feelings.

        I hope the boys dont see this, but i also hope a family member or a good friend will see it and take proper measures to protect them

  24. Omg poor boys this is scary ><
    they stood infront chun house and they know which one is hes car and hes mom and bro cars
    srsly get a lifeee they need to live thire life 2 …

  25. what did say about junsu?

    its good that junsu’s house is still a secret hehe

    • I heard junsu’s fans really respect him……even they know where he lives and where is he going, they don’t reveal to public….[also quite difficult to see his stalked picture]

      • yea, i heard that junsu’s fan are really protective of him, even when he used to date taeyeon back then
        i gotta say, that’s just… so so so sweet of the fans, esp after seeing this O__O
        junsu respects his fans and his fans respect him ^^

    • yeah… his fans just trying so hard to block any sassaengs getting near to Junsu…
      that’s why junsu always called ninja… no one knows where and when but then, boom he’s already in Japan…

      • aw his fans are so protective

        i checked now, in junsu’s fan community in korea, fans are forbidden to post stalkers pics and fancams by sassaengs

      • lol thats cute XD thats exactly what happen a few weeks ago. he flew to korea then next thing we know he was already in japan. im relaly glad susu is protected though. i feel really bad for the other members. well at least min is discreet. but yun looks abit mad in the vid. n of course chun can really get piss off.

      • That is nice of Junsu’s fans, I must say.

      • yep~ Junsu fans made it a rule about the stalker issue thats why we hardly see anything about him. Its so nice how his fans respect his privacy. The only time ou’ll see something about Junsu in recent times if they’re in Korea and arent doing anything is when he’s hanging out w/ Jaejoong or he’s spotted w/ other guys like Hyun Joong last time playing soccer.

  26. they need to get laid

    • I LOVE your comment X’DDDDD

    • yesh!

    • pretty much

  27. aigoo~
    are they REALLY love them? this make me sick…

  28. WOW…. i didn’t understand it but these girls look like they r very organized about this
    I’m just amazed on how this network works
    I don’t agree with them seriously being outside the boys house (probably) all night just waiting for them n following them around all day.
    my question is… WHERE R THEIR PARENTS?!?
    I don’t mind airport pics but geez…. lol
    (but then again if n when I go to Korea I don’t know if I would be able to control myself. but it’s a little different I guess cos it could be once in a life time chance for me lol)

  29. Creepy……….
    But they will hardly find Min…

    • lol no1 dare to touch our lord. he will put spell on ya >-> loool XD

  30. 24/7??? my…my…

  31. omo…they’ve such big network…
    0.0

    ahhh~~~
    ONE THING i REALLY HOPE for ‘these-fans’ to stay LOYAL toward our boys; NO MATTERS HAPPENED(in future…who knw)

    Really don’t want the same err…*u-know-who* incident repeating on our boys…

  32. i don’t call this love at all….it’s an unhealthy obsession..there’s a big difference…look at how young they are….and they’re wasting their lives following someone they don’t really know 24/7?…where are their parents?! how do they survive?…like what about their education?……weird…..anyways, I feel bad for the guys and their lack of a private life….I would gladly trade in never seeing stalker pics/fancams in exchange for the guys getting their privacy/personal space….I mean, I don’t think they mind as much during the day or when they’re at the airport, etc…but at least not late at night…*shudders*….at least ninja changmin is still the hardest to find..even the stalker fans seem to have a hard time finding him=P

    • im wondering the same thing. how did they get all the money to do this? n what about thier schooling? gosh as much as i like knowing how the guys are doing i rather them have thier privacy.

      • I think there’s 2 main options possible…they’re either really loaded or they’re completely spoiled brats and their parents let them do whatever they want.

      • lol yeah those girls do kinda sound vulgar imo. i think they are quite an organize secret community. like switching in between shifts and stuff XD

  33. i’m thankful all stalker’s pics and fancam of yunho Until now
    it’s scary if they follow their idols 24/7.
    if they really love their idols, these fans should respect their privacy.

  34. no wonder why i am quite accustomed to the place they go……

    have to thank them for news and alll those in depth

  35. another piece of information
    these fans dont follow them 24/7
    they have rooms for their idols privacy too.
    and once you have the connection, you have to nurture it by not crossing the line
    otherwise, this little community will punish you themselves by their means.

  36. i better not to know about their private life…. i prefer not to know rather than stalking them… it really hurts them and also hurting me….

  37. This need to be subbed, I hope some caring soul can do it for us because it looks really interesting.

    Those girls are doing the job of paparazzis.

    It would be hypocrite of me to say that I don’t enjoy the stalker pics or vids, I do.
    But I pity the boys, it must be annoying to be followed around all the time.
    However we have fewer pics of them lately so maybe things are changing or the fans are being more mature.

    • It seems like Korea doesn’t really have (m)any pro paps, just these amateurs. As ew as these chicks are, perhaps that is for the best…

    • Gotta figure too that some of the ‘sightings’ and info are deliberate tipoffs from management when they feel like doing a bit of casual promo.

  38. Someone must sub this. T.T

    But ohh poor boys….that’s just crazy…..

  39. [...] [Vid] 100723 KBS joy – Illegal TVXQ Fan about stalkers following TVXQ members. credit: HoLoveMin [...]

  40. Figures that they’re unattractive.

    KBS should get warned for promoting these losers.

  41. I have mixed feeling about this *slap my self*

    my wish is…pleaseee keep the distance, and stay loyal to the boys!!!!

  42. This makes me so uncomfortable and not just because of the stalking but also because I feel very embarrassed for the sasaeng fans. Could only skim the video because it’s so awkward to watch.

  43. that makes me feel sick.

  44. where is junsu’s house? i didn’t see it in the vid

  45. that is creepy…no wonder the boys always have bodyguards around them..and that is so sweet of Junsu’s fans to not disclose his whereabouts to protect him from the ss..

    • OMG! like they are like the SS D:

      from WWII !

      god they’re terribleD:

      <3 junsu's fans though :)

  46. LOL!
    this is insane…
    I love Yoochun reaction XD
    All of them have diferents roles in front of a camera, but in the real life they just want to be relaxed, so if he do that (I’m not saying that’s ok) I completely understand him
    COME ON!! Those girls follow them 24/7!!!

  47. i can totally understand why chun is a devil n angel. lol we seen him pissed off when fans do things like this. but he is still do hott pissed off XD anyways so much for korean laws. im starting to really doubt thier government. how the heck do these young girls spend so much time just stalking idols?

  48. OMG!!i really dunno what to say >.<
    poor them..I agree with most of you…we love them..we adore them..but this is sick obsession..
    they cant get a private live..are there many kind of this people in korea??
    and even creepy why KBS aired this kind of thing..haishhhh..I dunno this is the way they stalk them, like really 24/7..omoooo..
    I hope some law can be made in korea about stalking ppl

  49. Angel Yoochun has devil side =,=

  50. I think there’s a mis-spell there. I think they meant Jae’s at Hyunjoong instead of Hyunjoon, right? Crazy how SS501 have two KHJ, and only different by one letter.

    Anyways, thank you so much for the translation.

    • fixed, thanks! ^^ I also write his name this way XD

      • I mean I ALWAYS write his name this way *hungrytiredheadache*

  51. Thanks so much for the translation. I really appreciate it. ^^

    Angel Yoochun cannot be angel everytime when he has to go through these madness everytime. Every sane person would feel depressed and pissed off too.

    Well, I love the Junsu part. :)

  52. these girls scare the hell outta me. they are acting like that as if nothing’s wrong… yes they do take a lot of pictures of the boys and (maybe) share with other cassies, but so what? invading the lives of others (not only the boys’) is not that honourable. i hope someone will stop them hurting the boys….

  53. tks for the trans ^^

    i agree wt Chunnie’s manager doin THAT now.

    thats why they MUST have a very big manager.

    so annoyin for me XD

    • Nothing justify violence against women, not even this.

      Only if the girl was trying to physically harm Yoochun then maybe some kind of action is justifiable, but not because the girl was stalking him, taking his pics or staring him.

      Please don’t think like that : )

      • baby, nothing justifies any violence/breach of rights IN ANY FORMS against your fellow human beings – MEN or WOMEN
        it’s not always about gender darling..

      • ohh!! i apologize for this…i get your point. ^^

      • @ mango juice
        we are talking about a woman being the one assaulted here darling.
        of course, nothing justify violence against anyone, woman, men, children, older people, pets, etc.
        do you want me to be more specific?

  54. these girls are nowhere near professional

    you learn to live with it right?
    its inevitable if you are TVXQ!

  55. hmmm we are thankful for their stalking pics but i hope they will stop following our boys 24/24~ yeah nobody wants to be stalked all day and night :(

  56. in response to what someone above said, no – junsu’s sasaeng fans are just as bad as the other members. only changmin, when he was still a minor, had pretty tame saesang fans. but for the years that he’s been over 18, they’ve been hardcore like usual. if you see less new about a member, it’s not so much his fans having more respect, but just that that certain member did nothing worth reporting that day.

    • lol..
      you mean junsu just playing game and min keep eating in his house..

      two predictable members.. :D

      • lmao your comment cracked me up XD

    • i went to junsu’s sites,sensitive stuff and stalking info/whereabouts are discouraged to be posted. Junsu’s fans are protective of him. Even blogs that talks about junsu’s personal life will be taken down immediately.
      I saw his site myself. So strict really.

      • I you go to all of them (talking about Korean ones) they all have rules that say stuff like that not only junsu’s
        also stuff like don’t post things that affect dbsks reputation

      • like what you said….since I’m Junsu’s fan too, so we understand the same way.

        their fans all have rules, but it’s up to them to keep or break the rules…that’s why I said Junsu’s fans so strict, so no news about his private life like other members.

      • well thats really nice to know. im a susu fans. but i feel bad for not knowing all these things XD well its reassuring.

  57. Human see different!!! I’m happy to know that Min n Junsu can keep their private life.. poor Yunchunjae the girls don’t know the meaning of “respect” n “private”words.

  58. I think the only way to put a stop to this is to fully boycott all fancams/info fr such saesangs..if protection can be done for junsu, it is possible to do for all members.By watching those fancams, fans undoubtedly become more curious and want to know even more of members’ personal lives. This unknowingly encourages these saesangs to spy..They think that they are doing the fandom a big favour in feeding us with such info.

    It’s time for real cassies to unite and take action.

    • YUP! I agree ^^ I was also thinking of the same thing when I read your comment ^^ cos although I’m not the one stalking them, I still feel guilty cos it’s fellow ‘fans’ that are doing this to them -_- so I feel like I have a responsibility to do something to stop this … I was thinking that Cassiopeia should come together and stop this type of thing somehow … I just wasn’t sure how we’d stop it but boycotting seems like a good idea :) It may not STOP it but it’ll reduce the amount of ppl, i’m sure … and hopefully the few ppl left will also realise that what they’re doing is wrong …

      As much as I love my boys and like knowing what they’re up to, I don’t want them to suffocate in a world like this where they’re being ogled at like they’re in some zoo … EVERYONE deserves privacy.

      • yes i think everyone in the international fandom agree te boy need thier space. we need to do a petition or something. im sure cassie is worried as well. these stalkers fans arent real cassie.

  59. Just wanted to add: I don’t believe all sasaeng fans are obsessed with their idols per se. They are interested in DBSK members but a I have a feeling that a large part of what fuels their continued stalking is that they find friendships and internet “popularity” through their activities and it’s one way for them to reach out to the world and gain recognition they find lacking in their normal lives. Just throwing this half-baked theory out there….

    • Yeah, classic attention whores.

      • lmao nice one XD

  60. This is nothing new lol.

  61. I have a question don’t these kids have schools to go to and parents to answer to?

  62. Its creepy…they’re not loving fans, they’re obsessed stalkers…
    when i see how far those stalkers can go, i am damn worried for the boys…

  63. I don’t like when she talked about Yoochun dropped her memory card. I know that Cassie will understand Yoochun, but this vid was shown on TV. many people watched it and they might misunderstand him. Those stalker ruined Yoochun’s image. If they were their fans and loved them, they wouldn’t do this so i don’t think i should call them as fans or Cassiopeia.

    • i think its okay since i believe lots will understand why Yoochun dropped the memory card in the coffe. When i read it I was like “way to go chunnie!” if i was a family i will give a punch or two. I dont even care if it become a police case since duh…this kind of people are just twisted.

      • I agree w/ this~ the moment I read it I laughed at the girl. I thought ‘that served you right’.(sorry~XDDD)

      • lmao haha i totally am rooting for chunnie bad boy XD

    • Actually, it didn’t ruin Yoochun’s image for me at all. In fact, it made me say ‘Good Job Chunnie!’

      These fans are going overboard. Reading about this pisses me off already and I am glad that Yoochun dropped her memory card in the coffee. Serves her right.

    • I agree
      You FANS might be like “GOOD ONE YOOCHUN” But people who aren’t fans wouldn’t be like that… I mean it was shown in TV
      And then they’ll start hating him and bla bla bla Dx

      • Like… People who already doesn’t like the boys :s
        They would totally use it as a reason to hate him and bash him, if you understand what I mean
        Like Ellie from Seoulbeat, she was like okay nice when she talked about the other members… But Yoochun… Oh she totally hates him for what happened in the airport (That thing with the camera)

      • her -.- sometimes that girl is rather >.< but anyways haters will hate. not everyone will watch the vid. only if they are interested. n yu know what they say about bad publicity XD

  64. erm….for me its better to know less about people you idolize since knowing too much often hurt both side. Thatz why the least you know the degree of excitement, enjoyment and love skyrocketing. Do they know that distance can make love even meaningful? Do they even understand stalking is not love but obsession? It will develop into a sickness. There are so many things in the world that they need to see, hear, feel and learn other than wasting time hurting the one they love. Its understandable that you want to know everything about your idol but invasion of privacy is just unacceptable. I think our boys want us to be happy and leading a normal life. Sigh…..what have become to this girls are just self-destructing.

    I feell so sad and its creepy watching this video. but in the same, DBSk truly is the ultimate idol since they even have the extreme kind of fans as well.

    • well said!

    • I agree, not knowing everything is what keeps u interested in an idol. I wanna have smth to wonder and be curious about….am i making sense?..lol

  65. when did it happen???????????

  66. You know what? If they know that the boys are upset about their actions, then they should just leave them alone!

  67. these girls kind of need to get a life…a real one, i mean. But i think Changmin must be like super ninja. Either that or they don’t stalk him because i hardly ever see stalker pics of Changmin anywhere unless it is when he’s with another member or something. hahah

    • Maybe he isn’t going out so much these days?
      And many of the stalkers doesn’t share all their pictures

  68. Chunnie, I love you, but it is still rude and disrespectful.. don’t be like that^^
    =***

    I can’t decide how I feel about such fans.. creepy for sure, but I also pity them.. and they are cassies too, right?

    • can i ask you? why is it rude and disrespect for Chunnie to do that?
      I thought, if pple doesn’t give you the due respect, why shld we give them the respect then?
      Chunnie is human afterall, he gets frustrated.

      • @yjcms–i totally agree with u. we dont know what kind of pics they were, and where this took place. He must have a reason for that reaction. u give respect to get respect

      • it is her property, he has no right to harm it imo..

        but I don’t blame him THAT much, just don’t like how fans say that he did right thing..

      • She probably liked it since he paid attention to her. Not like anything of value was lost.

    • meh… I cant believe you tbh~ You never saw the ugly side of anything except what Yuchun do and whatnot. Even if he’s your biased I find you really weird.

      as jjfanatic pointed out:
      “u give respect to get respect”

      • gosh, girls, give him a break. these stalkers are creepy and his actions are very understandable. he doesn’t give a damn about his image and what people think of him. I think he made it clear that he lives his own life. I don’t think that’s disrespect, protecting your own privacy (you don’t know what kind of photos those girls had in that chip). whatever “negative” image his “selfish” and “disrespectful” actions lead to, it won’t really matter. I mean, come on… these girls can be a little overboard and he knows where to draw a line between privacy and love for his fans.

    • He doesn’t need to respect those people who violate his privacy! And can’t you see? Even when he did that, they still continue to stalk him like nothing happened! That totally sucks!

    • i dont know understand the way you think girl, i always find myself disagree will all your posts here in SYC 100% ^^

    • so you tell me did those girl respect him? did those girl give him a break to breath? i dont know why you are a YC bias but the way you comment in this post as well as other posts ( YC manager posts) always seem like you are not even his fans. you think you have the right to say YC is rude and disrespectful? just base on these incidents with those stalker girls and you say he rude and disrespect?

    • ok, I’m weird.. I get it.

    • i think what anya means is that you shouldn’t reciprocate a wrong action with another wrong action.

      anyway i don’t really blame yoochunnie bcoz he must be REALLY pushed to his limit.

      (p.s: i don’t really find anya being critical of her own bias weird…i am most critical of my bias bcoz i don’t want to love him blindly; I want to love him while being cognizant of his flaws…if that makes sense lol.)

      • Im also most critical of my own biased infact I’ve been called a basher few times bcoz of such attitude. Not w/ any TVXQ boys anyway since I learned its better not to speak of what I trully think in this fandom or everyone will be all over you.
        But IMO, Chun is just human, he couldnt possibly be always politically correct w/ his actions and such. He could lose his patience, he has emotions like some others.Its easy for anyone to say it isnt the right thing to do/its rude etcs.. bcoz it never happened to them or they’ve never been put under the same situations of constantly being stalked by fans everyday of your life.

        The thing sometimes w/ anya is she always blame Chun more often than NOT whenever situations like this happened. I mean Chun isnt even my biased but I noticed what she always said about Yuchun this, Yuchun that.Hey, couldnt those fans do something wrong too?

      • anya is too biased against her bias, haha…poor yoochunnie…

      • I also kind of agree with anya
        because more incidents like this can be cause more hate for Yoochun
        especially for non-fans who doesnt know how crazy are these stalkers
        and antis who probably will be happy since they are being feeding up
        Yoochun need to think he is carrying TVXQ’s image too
        its not the first time he show his human side…
        he really need to learn to control his actions
        its not right to react “a wrong action with another wrong action” (@la)

      • ^^Is that really so?

        I guess Im really glad that in any fandom I’ve been in, TVXQ fandom is the only fandom who actually give more importance to what antis would say after as well as non-fans. Like they need to control their emotions all the time infront of rabid fans etcs…..

        I just prefer them being human , I dont need to agree w/ their actions all the time but hey~ its better than being fake and always tell them whats better for them and whatnot.

      • don’t care about those stupid antis, they just hate. we all know Yoochun’s honest and he dares show his human side, he is no angel, DBSK are no angels, they have been stalked 24/7 everyday and night, and Yoochun is the one who got stalked the most, he has his limit too. it’s not like he’s doing that to those sasaeng everytime they follow him, he have controlled a lot too but one day he couldn’t stand it and he exploded. but like some fans said, even when he did that, they still had a reason to like it and continue on stalking him because he paid some attention to them, those sasaengs are crazy like that.

    • oh gosh……

    • no matter what he does, we have no right to judge him. just deal with it

      he himself judged it right, to do what he did. things like that happen and he doesn’t care what people think or say about him.

      I respect him and love him. I don’t care what people say or think about him, because I know better to trust my own judgment and I trust him. He must have had a really good reason to do what he did. who cares about negative reputation. it’s all rumors and lies anyway.

  69. They stalk the crap out of them and when they do something about it people will say ” ___ is being rude”
    What the hell people. GTFO stupid stalker fans.

  70. this is just… scary.
    i used to think before that there’s no way for the international fans to see the 5 Gods except stalker stuff. but this isn’t right and i’m not sure to use this word a bit.. outrageous in some way. i mean i think it may be okay in a “certain” degree when you see him on public places for example at airpot and die to take a few pictures..
    but this vid looks a huge step towards and a waaaay beyond..sth..?
    true fans know their limits and how to act coz our boys are already struggling so many damned things. it’s bad to make them feel uneasy and angry.

  71. Way to go Yoochun! ^^
    Now I can totally understand why sometimes he lost his temper like the airport thing! Those stalker fans need to be taught a lesson. But it seems like they don’t care even when Chunnie showed such attitude, they continue to stalk them as you can see, like the caption said “They accept and understand their oppa tough action.” LOL! Totally creepy!

  72. “Girl A/B (?) asked her if Jaejoong got upset again, ”

    I read this part again and well, it seems to me Jaejoong was clearly not happy with them.

  73. omg…. this is creepy…

    thx for the trans….

  74. oh my God….

    now I really understand why so many Korean artists who took suicide because of depressed…
    As an artist, you don’t have any private life….
    I will go crazy if I have life like them…

    If I’m a Korean artist then if I have to go to public bathroom I’ll be so frantic…

  75. I remember when stalkers fans makes cry changmin outsite in a restaurant…cause he was to eat alone there but then stalkers appears inside the place and start to make pictures and blah..so changmin ask to them “please stop, please leave me eat” but they dont stop so…changmin go out to the restaurant and star of crying sit down on the floor and still the damns stalker make pics about his crying T_______T

    POOR BABY, eve if haard to stalk him still he have those creepy fans too :(

    • where did u saw it? i want to know…

      • i have the pic of it. >_< this article remind me so much of it, i just found in my lib lol

      • I want the pic!!! Where did you found it!?

    • I read from somewhere that Changmin was having a drink alone at his fav spot somewhere like park..
      But then the crazy fans kept snapping photos and chasing him around and finally he broke and cried at the road side…
      But the fans were still surrounding him…
      Fans should’ve know that he don’t like it, they should know what’s the limit..
      Poor Minnie~!! T^T

      I think i saw it at random videos on youtube of that day’s photos

      What I can say is…
      Fans, knows the limit and stop whenever its needed…

      • T_T

        thx for the vid.

  76. It’s the price of fame.. Well at least for KPOP stars Just sayin’

    • i’m just saying this on general level (with your comment as a conduct): i never understand this train of thought “you are celeb so your privacy is inevitably invaded as the price of fame”.

      I choose and do my work/job for my living and ambition, but I don’t choose to have my privacy invaded. Knowing and judging my work quality is completely different from being nosy about/sneaking into my private life just for the sake of it.

      Or at least i remember such words from a famed artist.
      Personally I think she’s rightfully correct about that point.
      Of course, unless you yourself want otherwise :)

      • well said, to whoever that artist is… lol
        it’s just… sad, how having people stalking famous people is now seems “normal”, and the celebs should just suck it up coz it’s supposedly “the price of fame” ):
        invading someone’s privacy is always wrong no matter how you look it. altho, ofc we can argue the reasoning behind the actions. in this case, however, these “fans”, it’s almost like they’re just stalking for the sake of stalking (idk if this makes any sense) i mean, they’re so freaking organized and they don’t seem to see anything wrong with what they’re doing, sneaking into people’s private life…
        a lot of people mentioned about “marketing”,”exposure” etc, and how these aspects are the reason fans behaving like this, BUT come on, if you’re a real fan, why would you give the idols who you claimed you love so much hard time? they’ve had enough pressure already… this is why i never count stalkers as a fan =/ esp with the 2PM drama, when “fans” turn antis so fast O_____O

        if i’m in these celebs’ shoes, i seriously don’t know how i’ll be able to cope with the paparazzis, obsessive fans, pressure, etc… i’ll probably end up like britney/lindsay (no offense to brit’s/lindsay fans)

        sorry for tl;dr comment, mods >__<

  77. i don’t understand those so-called fans, they clearly seem to know that they bother the members and that it makes them upset, and still they don’t stop or at least back up a bit. I mean, alone the question “was jj upset again” shows that they are aware, but not caring.

    And oh yoochun, this boy’s actions are lead on emotions, acts straight-forward without thinking. Kzz, i think his action was wrong, dropping the card in coffee was kind of very harsh, he could just have demanded the card and slip it in his bag :/

  78. Actually to tell the truth,I don’t like the idea of stalking them around so much.
    Imagine you’re tired from work and need some private time..but there’re dozen of girls following you like mad?!I think we need to put us into their shoes as well.
    I quite understand what yuchun does(although it’s a little too harsh but the bodyguards i met at mirotic con in thailand is even harsher= =*)
    But if there were no stalker at all..we who are worry dead of how they are and what are they up to won’t know.So I think it’s ok to follow them around a bit but we really need to know the limit of it.I really feel sorry for the oppas if it had gone too far:(

  79. at times like these i’m just glad js is a ninja XD
    ninja-su ftw~

  80. DAMN! ! these stalkers . . are creepy
    I like the way YUCHUN handel it with these
    sayco girls . . . shouldn’t they have schools ? or
    jobs? or even parents told them to stop?

    I hate the way Yunho deal with them . . DAMN!

    He is too nice with them! ! are they holding somthing on him ? maybe who knows?

    • i wonder what u’ll think if this vid record about yoochun when yoochun behave as angel with these fangirl, will u think that “are they holding somthing on him ?, may be who knows? ^^

    • exactly what i was thinking.. 0_ov

  81. hahhahahahahah!!!!!

    true FBI trainees!!!!!!

    freakin hilarious if you look at it this way!!

    and to the girls out there being so worked up over “dbsk need privacy too” ,
    the harsh truth is idols give up privacy a a price for fame, nothing to be done about it now, its gotten out of hand that its beyond control!!!

    freakyy but funny to watch if you are not the person in question with no privacy

    peace

  82. i’ve known about “sasaeng” long time ago and i’m not surprised here. that’s the price of being so popular and famous. poor my boys.

    and i think that’s really honest and cool of Yoochun to do something to those sasaeng. he’s so precious. good job Chunnie.

  83. i can’t help but worry for them. Its unhealthy which ever way you see it a whole breach of privacy at that. I mean i understand that celebrities belong to the public but i think that’s just a little much.

    Plus this whole talk about the yunjae box is also kinda creepy. I wish people would just leave them alone. What is the world coming to when fans start threatening their gasoos -_-v Its just really sad. They’re only human..

  84. it’s their lives…I always scream at TV when the entertainment reporter asks celebrity if he’she is dating anyone, secretly going out with that girl ..why do you break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend…etc…

    like, do I wanna know? yuck…too personal…

    it’s fun hearing tidbits during their work, like what Youchun and the casts revealed during the press conference…
    but….to watch them closely like they are specimen is so wrong….

  85. ohmygosh these girls…

  86. leave them alone :(

  87. Hmm…

    After seeing this…I don’t have any comment for the boys, but my concern here is a bunch of teenage girls who spent their time by following someone that they didn’t even know.

    Stalker girls out there… Hey! they are just celebrity, and the one that you call “OPPA” is just human also. They are working as entertainer/singer and it’s their job to sing or to entertain.. it’s the same like doctor,nurse,sales,secretary,etc etc..entertainer is just a “job”. You are all still young…it’s regretful when you say ,”aaah…I waste my youth time” in your 30 or late 20′s. My advise is, please take your time to think out of the box. Please think yourself as them, as you.If it were me, I prefer to spend times with family, laughing with friends, shopping, and having the real boyfriend. Yes, you may still being a fangirl, talking about the boys with friends, but with attitude. If in the E! Entertaintment the host always said,”do it with style”, well..in this case I’m saying,”girls…honey..do it with attitude.”

    ^_^

  88. I really don’t like the part where the girl said sometimes he’s angel yoochun and sometimes he’s evil yoochun. :(
    Even if you wanna stalk, not 24/7.
    Give them a breather.

    I believe Yoochun has perfect reason for what he did. :D
    Yoochun Hwaiting.

    True fans wouldn’t be affected by hearing these kind of news, they’ll just gather together to criticize the ridiculous stalkers.

    YOOCHUN’S PERFECT in my eyes(:
    Super biased but ain’t that true for all fans!(:

    Yoochun Hwaiting!(:

  89. I wouldn’t even call those girls fans…. true fans don’t hurt their idols like that. :(

    I’m curious what Junsu said to them on the phone…. he should have played Wrong number haha

    “Sorry you got the wrong number, so don’t call me no more~”

  90. This is sad and what they are doing is wrong but don’t bash them too much /:
    This is how we get pictures and information about them.
    This is the only way they can probably show their “love”.
    True fans or not we’re all still the same fans after all. We’re just expressing it differently i guess. (although this is going overboard /: )

  91. Seriously people have no lives!! where the hell do they find the time to do this? leave them alone in their own country/ city please!! and leave their parents places alone too! holy crap.

  92. Wow, those people have no life.

  93. Korea doesnt have law for stalking?

    this is creepy

  94. whoo~~~~ be scared…xDD

  95. Instead of presenting it this way, I wish KBS could have making it more educationally and psychologically by trying to figure out why those girls do it this hay, why they have to stalk their beloved idols around 24/7.
    Really, I wanna know REASONS behind their action rather than PROCEDURES!!!
    The way KBS showed it is like “How can you stalk TVXQ?” because people who don’t have consideration may perceive it as a good example.

  96. OMG, that stalkers are seriously spending lots and lots of money to stalk DBSK. Taxi for stalkers. O.o
    But if they really do love their idols, why don’t they give them some privacy? Poor idols. (Our DBSK T T)

    It just scared me, really. I heard some Koreans talking about how scary are the fans. They said CAssies are even more scary. I don’t want to believe it. T T. Stalkers are stalkers, Cassies are Cassies, right?

    PS: That YUNJAE SECRET BOX thing really made me curious? You mean people think they are real???


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